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  1. mjf
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    Adobe are Gems


    I was interested in purchasing Lightroom 5. On the US website they had an offer of US$119 for the download (Aus$133). I technically can download and pay on an International credit card or Pay Pal but Adobe say prices vary from country to country!!! Instead I need to pay Aus$186 for the same download. This is a total price gouging scam.Oh well that's the level playing field global economy for you.
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    Yea I used this to see if I liked it thanks to Keith,
    https://creative.adobe.com/plans/off...?promoid=KHQFP
    On another note I just got a look at the new u.s. 100 dollar bill,
    It looks comical and it's worth is also comical
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  3. mjf
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    OOps I wouldn't want MS to feel left out
    Microsoft, Adobe, wilt during Australian price gouge grilling ? The Register
    I think The MS Managing Director came out with some gems herself.
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    I don't believe it is the companies.
    Different countries have different laws, regulation and or tariffs that add to the price. When companies have to comply to those things the cost is passed on to the customer and always will be.
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  5. mjf
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    Layback Bear said:
    I don't believe it is the companies.
    In Australia and NZ it is blatant price gouging as revealed in the Parliamentary inquiry. The article explains this. Australia has no import duty for items under $1000 and for software there is no import duty on software regardless of value. There may be a 10% GST (goods and services tax). Add it all up taking into account exchange rates and the gouging gap is very significant. These companies apply regional protection which facilitates the gouging.
    As far as tariffs go, Australia has a free trade agreement with the USA. So there are no tariffs and a free trade agreement makes gouging more disgraceful.
    When I buy Photoshop plugins from the likes of Topaz Labs there is no gouging.

    Mind you other countries get slugged as well to various extents (eg. UK).

    For business MS and Adobe have virtually no competition. The business takeup of linux, LibreOffice, GIMP (for prof photographers) is really quite small.
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  6. Posts : 25,847
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    You obviously know more about the mater than me. I was just looking at the numbers.

    A product cost of $119.00 plus 10% GTS = $130.90. Figure in exchange rate cost that very all the time that is pretty close to $133.00.

    Don't confuse me with someone who trust all large companies.
    I don't and do believe that many will take advantage of customers when that advantage is available and unrestricted.
    Whether it's called a GTS or a tariff it's still 10%.
    I will read the article again; maybe I missed something.

    Well I read it again. I also read when it first come out in March of 2013.
    Has the government made any changes in law or regulations that help the consumer sense the hearing?

    Is their a break down some where that gives all the cost of why the price difference? I mean every thing.

    Do you folks down under have internet download fees?

    I know why big companies get their prices. (Because they can) is their method. I was wondering about little hidden fees, taxes or what ever they want to call them that governments hide.

    Something like a freon tax when you fly. Yes this country has a tax on freon because it's used in the air condition on the air craft. It's added into the price of a ticket.
    Another little goodie. Most if not all big cities in this country have a bed tax that is hidden. Every bed in a motel or hotel has a bed tax. It's hidden in the price of the room. Every bed that is used is taxed every time it is used. If you use the room for 5 days you pay 5 days bed tax included in the price of the ticket.
    A product can be free of tariffs and import fees but still have hidden government fees and taxes.
    I don't know if this is the case down under because I can't find a lot of information on the subject.
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  7. whs
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    Michael, did you ever try to work thru a US proxy address.
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  8. mjf
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    whs said:
    Michael, did you ever try to work thru a US proxy address.
    No Wolfgang. I'd need to figure out how to do it. But I gather Adobe software is aware of your geographic location in normal operation (? maybe from your IP address in a "phone home") and blocks the software from running. I'm not sure if MS do the same.
    I guess there is a principle here. These corporations have a very large market outside of North America and people don't like getting screwed.
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  9. whs
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    They are protecting the local organizations. Before we had the EU, that was also the case in Europe. But within the EU there is free flow of goods and services and companies are not allowed to block purchases from other countries. Some companies were still trying to do that (e.g. Mercedes) and got hefty fines from the EU. And the EU does not deal with change - it is always hundreds of millions. In another case, Microsoft was in for 732 Million.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/technology/eu-fines-microsoft-over-browser.html?_r=0
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    From what little I know, prices in Australia in general are higher than in the US. I suspect one reason is the cost of shipping to what is basically a secluded island, albeit a continent.

    OZ also has that consumer protection law which can make companies liable for a lot of things, even misuse in some cases, which I suspect would be added to costs. In the end I would expect to find the actual spending power of AUD and USD would be nearly equal.
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