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Windows 7: Any Vapers?

08 Dec 2014   #1031
Wishmaster

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The new Kayfun is out, v4:



I really want one. Next up on my list though is a new Provari v3. Then maybe this little beauty!
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08 Dec 2014   #1032
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Well I decided to grab a Big dripper with a 5ml tank you can look at Amazon.com : Big Dripper Clone with Drip tip : Patio, Lawn & Garden

I also ordered a reel of 100ft of 32 gauge awe wire to try some rewrapping over time as a sort of pet project. Meanwhile the Smok BEC Pro which would have been in saturday if shipped by frist class was sent by flat rate and arrived at the local PO early this morning but not being delivered until tomorrow. The tracking was finally updated to show that.
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09 Dec 2014   #1033
Wishmaster

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Thats the best way to buy the wire in the 100ft spools.

What resistance are you aiming for? 28g around a 5/64 drill bit for example, at 7 wraps is about 1.5. 6 gets you about 1.3 ohm.


32g is pretty thin and harder to work with than 28. You may need to use more wraps too if you want to be over 1 ohm, which may end up taking longer to heat up if you use to many wraps.
But it works well for sub ohm, dual coil, and twist builds.


I guess what I mean, if you want 1ohm and higher single coil builds you may find 28 to be a better choice.

Under 1 ohm single coil, dual coil and/or twist builds you may find 32g to be better.




For example, a dual coil build with 28 ends up being over well over 2 ohm, closer to 3 the way I want to build it.
Same wraps, using 32g with a dual coil will be 1.2 or 1.3.
So 32g is ideal here.

For single coil, 6-7 wraps of 28g is best for my intended use.
Same single coil build with 32g ends up being below 1ohm (around .6 - .7 or so), which my Provari dislikes.
So 28g is the ideal choice here ... at least for me.


May be perfect for your intended use not sure, just mentioned in case it helps.
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09 Dec 2014   #1034
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I have plenty of options for 1.5 and above simply running with the tanks I already have with the exception of the Atlantis. The 32 gauge was specifically ordered for sub ohming purposes being the gauge of wire being recommended for that purpose. The idea however is not to try and make the primary but a pet project I can work with on the side in order to get the hang of it in that sense!

One thing I should point out here while I am at it since no one else has seen to so far concerns recharging batteries. I have heard some in discussions talk about how to they intend to use higher amperage charging methods simply to see batteries charge up sooner then what the manufacturer recommends! Most wall plugs are 5v ranging from about 450mA up to 650mA.

Portable 1000mA or 1A chargers are agailable as well but mainly geared for charging up IPhonies and other cell phones which would pull heavily on the 3.3v pc type usb port. I had a self powered 4port hub lose two out of the four when trying that out with a small Samsung cell phone! But this is simply a reminder of what not to do which is to not pay attention and checking to see if batteries start getting hot!

Staying in charge means Paying Attention while charging any form of rechargeable batteries! That also includes ecig batteries as well as 18xxx and 2650s! If you don't... if I can get the url to take that is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4aMPDedGPk#t=48
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09 Dec 2014   #1035
Wishmaster

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Ah OK, I must have missed that. 32g will suit you just fine then!

Something that helps make it a bit easier to work with is if you have a little propane torch. Cut the wire, then heat it briefly with the torch. Not to much or it'll melt. But a little will make it less "springy" I find it helps to in reagrds to wrapping the coil. It'll hold shape easier.
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09 Dec 2014   #1036
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I don't have a propane torch but I can hold it over the burner on a gas stove if you think that will help any! I don't think I would be needing flame retardant gloves at all but a long pair of needle nose pliars with some good insulation on the handle portion should work.

Did have some long nosed candle lighters at one time but those never last long! I think at this point I would be rather reluctant to pull out one of the two Zippo lighters since one looks like an ecig!

Actually a regular lighter is all that is needed for 28 or 32 gauge Kanthal wire. As far as going to CVS for a bag of cotton balls Walamart carries the same without the store name on them. But many prefer to get the imported cotton in small sheets instead. The principles are basic however where I can refer to a basic guide like the one seen at How to Wrap a Nano Microcoil with Cotton Bed for a Vortex RDA

In the guide there the suggestion for using a lighter for the actually brief heat treat of the wire which is what is being seen when sligtly tempering the wire. What gets me about 90% of the YouTube videos these people post up shows them making sure to a longgggg... puff to toss a cloud at the end of any video guide they make up! I put an orange, Cherry blend in the Atlantis at 30w and then later drop in the Wintergreen/Menthol flavor now in at 40w and guess which one will push out a cloud with ease? It won't be the menthol!

Actually I go look over several guides as part of a reference library I've been working on. That includes several medical and scientific research articles as well as other types of guides as I go along but won't be necessarily adding that one there in.

First I have to get the Big D in first however and see how that is set up along with the wire. I already have a bag of cotton balls I use to rewick the coils in the Tumbler tanks. I already have a meter I got from a place that sold testing equipment back in the late 90s before that closed up. But I couldn't get the scope I wanted at the time since I wasn't a business owner or buying for a company.
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09 Dec 2014   #1037
Wishmaster

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Ive tried both types of cotton. I got some at walmart and it tasted horrible. Apparently, some get bleached is why. It's also why some will recommend you boil your cotton and let it dry overnight. I didnt want to go through that.



I got some of the Japanese Organic cotton at Amazon and its really good. Highly recommended. Its also a little more absorbent. or sucks up more ejuice faster. Huge plus when vaping at higher wattages.
Amazon.com: Cotton Labo ORGANIC Cotton Puff Size M (200pc): Health & Personal Care

This is in little squares so its easy to get a nice little strip to thread through your coil.


You dont need to heat the wire before wrapping. Sometimes i just wrap the coil, as tight as possible, mount it and the heat it with the mod. After it glows use tweezers to tidy it up.
The heating step just makes it a bit easier and the coil will easier to tighten up after mounted.
Personal choice really if you want to or not.
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09 Dec 2014   #1038
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

That Kayfun V4 looks nice on the P3. I'm still building up to that kind of mod just not ready to plunk that much coin down...yet.

I'm still loving the Nautilus. Have a bit of a cold now, our weather hits 80F one day, then drops to freezing the next

I have a little congestion so switched to a lighter juice and all is good. I'm still debating on getting a box mod, or just stick with the tube style, but I do want to try subohming. The Atlantis looks awesome, but I'm waiting to hear about the Kanger Subtank. So far the plus for it is the amount liquid it will hold.

I found with some of the darker juices it vapes good at 9 watts, and the clearer juices at 10. I think my cold has a little to do with that so will continue to vary it
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09 Dec 2014   #1039
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The cotton I had someone pick up for me is CareOne 100% cotton found in the baby section there. I was able to take apart several of the Smok coils used on Tumbler, Trophy, HBC, GBC, RBC, and some other tanks before the T-Series arrived but couldn't get the consistency I was looking for with some down as low as 1.7ohm on a 2ohm coil.

The Japanese cotton there comes in flat sheets rather then the fuss required to tear small pieces off of cotton balls in order to twist and shape the way the original wick was or how it will mesh with the RDA, RBA type coils.

Heating the wire either by flame or by firing dry wouldn't be any problem as far as a slight heat treat for prepping it. Most likely just a half dozen burst fires dry would suffice without the need for using a lighter or torch. The old Zippo lighter I would rather leave in the "Forget Me Forever" archive!

What most don't know is that the US is the one who originally supplied the Japanese Textile industry with cotton in the early 1900s before the first World War came along. There's also some comparisons made between domestic and Japanese cotton as far as cloud making as well as the taste comparisons. I came across one discussion where someone was saying that Agent Orange is still in use once the growing season is over on domestic grown cotton? I would think more in the lines of bleached or prewashed at least to be labeled sterile cotton with some packaging while most I ever see is packaged simply with 100% in print.

The Atlantis is a great one! Dude and finding a bargain price that isn't already sold out will be a challenge at this point!
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09 Dec 2014   #1040
Wishmaster

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Yea the kayfun v4 looks really nice. Im not ready to put that much into one though. Although I love my Kayfun Lite and think it was worth the cost. But it works so well I cant see getting a newer model.
According to that review, its nearly identical in regards to flavor/vapor production. Though slightly better flavor.
Mostly better design for future modding.


A lot of money..... But I do really want the new Provari. But have been look into box mods. Like a DNA30 or 40. try some sub ohm maybe .. but I dunno. Pretty happy with my current setup. Makes it hard to justify.
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