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28 Oct 2015   #1651
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Some other Great news to bump the thread here with! For those who plan to keep on vaping as well as keeping the life saving alternative options alive some law makers are rethinking things especially being an election year perhaps?!

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Congress Moves to Protect the Vapor Industry from the FDA’s Deeming Ban





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Congress Moves to Protect the Vapor Industry from the FDA’s Deeming Ban.


Spending bill would not stop regulations, but would stop unprecedented product bans

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the American Vaping Association, a leading advocate for the benefits of vapor products such as electronic cigarettes, praised the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Related Agencies for its approval of a spending bill that would prevent the FDA from regulating the vast majority of vapor products out of existence.

If enacted, the bill would make clear that the FDA Center for Tobacco products cannot require vapor products already on the market to go through a lengthy and potentially multimillion dollar Premarket Tobacco Review application process. This bill would not impact the FDA’s ability to regulate these products, including setting rigorous product and manufacturing standards.


Since the FDA regulation was proposed last April, industry and public health advocates have warned that the FDA’s insistence on retroactively applying the Premarket Tobacco Review requirements to already existing products would lead to over 99% of vapor products being banned. This would happen for no reason other than the inability of nearly all product manufacturers — other than those associated with large tobacco companies — to bear the associated costs.

In November, House leadership signaled that Congress could act on this issue if the FDA failed to do so. Speaker Rep. John Boehner, Majority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy, and House Energy & Commerce Committee Chairman Rep. Fred Upton sent a joint letter to the Secretary of Health & Human Services requesting that this change be implemented in the regulation.

Gregory Conley, President of the American Vaping Association, issued the following statement:


“Without action by Congress, the FDA’s proposed regulations threaten to ban 99%-plus of vapor products currently available on the market. This would be a disaster not only for thousands of small businesses, but also public health.


“This proposal does not remove the FDA’s ability to regulate vapor products. The FDA will retain the authority to immediately move forward with science-based product standards, disclosure requirements, and many other measures. Anyone who claims that this bill would somehow render the FDA toothless is either not familiar with the law or not being forthright.


“We are thrilled to see movement on this issue. Clear evidence is emerging from around the world that vapor products are helping smokers quit. It is unconscionable to effectively ban the sale of tens of thousands of vapor products while leaving combustible cigarettes freely available.”


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You can learn more about AVA and vaping by visiting the AVA website. You can also find us on Facebook and Twitter.

About the American Vaping Association:
The American Vaping Association is a nonprofit organization that advocates for small- and medium-sized businesses in the rapidly growing vaping and electronic cigarette industry. We are dedicated to educating the public and government officials about financial and public health benefits offered by vapor products, which are battery-powered devices that heat a liquid nicotine or nicotine-free solution and create an inhalable vapor
American Vaping Association blog page

adding further:

Ex “Winston Man” exposes corrupt science behind WHO’s ban on e-cigarettes…

But this one is the best! Here you will see a side by side comparison where a smoking machine compares vapor to smoke showing who inhales what?!
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Difference of ecig vapor to cigarette smoke. A simple experiment

Published on Jun 9, 2015
View the difference between a traditional cigarette and an electronic cigarette (vapor product), as it is captured on video with a very simple experiment. The result will amaze you
And in addition to those articles in review of the vaping related reports seen in 2015 one of the best and also most informative articles turns out to one from the Forbes site but by a contributing author regarding nicotine itself also found in tomatoes and eggplant not just tobacco.

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Jun 19, 2015 @ 08:00 AM 23,722 views

Nicotine Itself Isn't The Real Villain


Sally Satel ,
Contributor

I write about issues at the intersection of medicine and culture.

The man in charge of tobacco regulation at the Food and Drug Administration says we “need a national debate on nicotine.” Good idea. But first we need to understand what nicotine is – and what it isn’t.

It isn’t the stuff that can cause serious illness and death from cancer, lung, and heart disease. Those culprits are the tar and toxic gases that are released from burning tobacco when you smoke.

Nicotine is a chemical that is dangerous not because it causes cancer but because it can addict you to cigarettes. As Michael Russell, the father of tobacco harm reduction theory and the developer of nicotine gum, put it in 1976: “People smoke for nicotine but they die from the tar.”

Mitchell Zeller, director of the Center of Tobacco Products, a division of the FDA, made his comments about nicotine in an interview with New York Times columnist Joe Nocera on the eve of his agency’s recommendations for regulating electronic cigarettes.

The nature of e-cigarettes is that, like Russell’s gum, they contain nicotine and thus satisfy the cravings of smokers, but vaping – as puffing on an e-cigarette is called – doesn’t burn tobacco and release those carcinogens. Unfortunately, many Americans don’t understand that nicotine itself isn’t the villain.
see full report
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02 Mar 2016   #1652
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I hate bumping old threads but here's one more "POSITIVE" report for vapers everywhere!


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New Study: Electronic Cigarettes Vapor Has NO Toxic Effect

by admin | Feb 18, 2016





In a recent study, scientists have found electronic cigarette vapor has NO toxic effect on the cells found in human lungs. Fresh research, funded by British American Tobacco (BAT), suggested inhaling nicotine vapor could be as safe as breathing air.

To perform these experiments, the tobacco giant teamed up with the MatTek Corporation, maker of human cell models used in “in vitro” laboratory experiments. Scientists then used a “smoking robot” to expose these lung cell replicas to tobacco smoke, two different brands of e-cig vapor, and plain old air.

After being exposed to old-fashioned smoke for six (6) hours, the cells died. However, after subjecting the cells to an “aggressive and continuous” dose of e-cig vapor, researchers claimed the damage to the airway tissue was “similar to that of air”. BAT spokesperson, Dr Marina Murphy, stated “by employing a combination of a smoking robot and a lab-based test using respiratory tissue, it was possible to demonstrate…. the e-cigarette aerosols used in this study have no [toxic] effect on human airway tissue.”

There are plans to tests a wider variety of e-cigs, to prove its results. “Currently there are no standards concerning the ‘in vitro’ testing of electronic cigarette aerosols,” said Marina Trani, ‎Group Head Scientific Product Stewardship at British American Tobacco. “Our protocol could prove very useful in helping the process by which these guidelines might progress.”

The debate about e-cigarette safety has been raging for several years. Study after study have highlighted health risks, although most experts agree vaping is much safer than smoking cigarettes. Dr Michael Siegel, professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences at Boston University’s School of Public Health, welcomed the latest study as evidence of the safety of electronic cigarettes; stating “Despite the limitations of the research, it adds additional evidence to support the contention that vaping is a lot safer than smoking.”

He called on public health bodies and anti-tobacco groups alike to encourage smokers to swap to vaping; a step which would “transform the nicotine market and achieve a huge public health victory.” going on to proclaim, “Such a phenomenon would result in the greatest public health miracle of our lifetimes.”

However, the health expert warned overheating liquid nicotine could produce dangerous toxins. Personally, overheating e-juice taste horrible and should be avoided for that reason alone. Vaping advocates claimed the previously research results, which found e-cigs vapor held dangerous chemicals, were false due to the nicotine liquid being exposed to high temperatures.

Earlier this year, British American Tobacco announced the release of a device called Voke, not currently available on the market, which is licensed as a medicine and produces no heat, working more like an asthma inhaler than an electronic cigarette.



Tom Pruen, Chief Scientific Officer of the Electronic Cigarette Industry Trade Association, stated he was satisfied the latest research was accurate. “While I’m sure that for many the source of the research will be a problem, of recent years the science conducted by the tobacco industry has been of very good quality, and despite the historic issues I wouldn’t view it with any greater skepticism than research conducted elsewhere,” he said. He went on to add, “the results are not unexpected. Not only are the components of an e-cig aerosol expected to be of low toxicity, based on a large number of analytical studies, but this research broadly agrees with a previous study.”
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11 Mar 2016   #1653
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My son smoked and died at the age of 58. My sister has smoked since she was 16 and has been drinking for half her life and has just recently started coughing, liver and kidney problems at the age of 83. It's a gamble, but sooner or later it will get you. I tried cigarettes when I was around 14 and thought they were nasty, never tried again.
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11 Mar 2016   #1654
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The more people stop smoking or switch to vaping the better, I had a heart attack at 38 because of it (5 weeks after i'd given up), I just wish vaping would of been around then as I'd of moved off tobacco much sooner.
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11 Mar 2016   #1655
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I haven't had one yet but most of my family are long gone. Back in the 1960s "Everybody" smoked it seemed and on my father's side as well as on my mothers those who saw heart attacks like a cousin found DOA in his living room recliner were smokers! Between an older sibling and myself we were able to get my own father to quit back when the first warnings were being made public during the early 70s. He passed away suddenly from a stroke while on the highway.

The one thing to know it that it isn't nicotine which is the cause there. It's the tons of chemicals found in tobacco smoke that prove to be toxic over the long term exposure. The tar in tobacco smoke as well as Cadmium. low levels of Arsenic! a deadly toxin, and 68+ known carcinogens are certainly a good reason to quit! Vaping allows an alternative and presently under heavy fire by those who would rather spread misinformation about ecigs!

Here I am now 50yrs. an allergy sufferer who tried the pills which didn't work! from Big Pharma when allergy specialist prescribed Seldane which was later taken off of the market! I wonder why? It had side effects perhaps? And why spend $30 a week on pills when I was already spending the same amount per carton where back in the 1977-78 time frame found menthol smoke was much more effective while I had always hated the smell while growing up! A neighbor's kid had handed me one through a window when I was only 9yrs. old and instantly gagged! He had the habit of sneaking them out of his own mother's packs when left laying around apparently.

About 14-15yrs. back I would on occasion see the term Smokeless Cigarette or Electronic Cigarette right about the time later learned that a Chinese manufacturer was apparently gearing up for the first to go on the market after researching Herbert Gilbert's work from the 60s! He had the first to come up with a smoke free nicotine delivery method based on using PG from watching how Asthmatic inhalers worked.

PG had been already been in use for a good decade since the 50s and he ended agreeing with the Big Ts that it was too soon to go on the market! The concept for an alternative has been there but only the 21st century would see actual progress being made! And you will be interested in knowing a new documentary about vaping vs the failed products the Pharmaceutical industry promotes called "A Billion Lives" referring to how a billion lives are expected to be lost in this century from smoking related diseases is soon to be released to the cinemas! Eventually they plan to see that released on dvd some month later.

The producer and crew are now having live appearances as well as expecting the first film review before that one is released. The documentary will be exposing how Big $$$ has influenced policy makers over the decades in their favor simply to bolster profit margins and now bashes vaping being a threat to the profits on things that don't work to begin with and now you are seeing more warnings on each new prescription med coming out "if you have suicidal thoughts contact your doctor..." as if none of these new pills are fully tested before they come out? The documentaty however will stay primarily focused on the actual benefits as well as drastically lowered health risks for those who make the switch!
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11 Mar 2016   #1656
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I have never even tasted a smoke, so I guess I'm covered though I do have another mean craving: sugar.
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11 Mar 2016   #1657
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You would be surprised to learn just how much sugar and salt you eat without even having deserts! A good deal of the processed you buy in a grocery store are loaded with sodium and sugars to get people attracted to the tastes. That included packages of sliced meats being loaded with sugar as well as sodium levels in low sodium? and Supposedly No Sodium baked goods? Salt is still used for baking!

One thing you can glad you never did was taste a tobacco product while traditionally pipe smoking and cigars where you don't fully inhale the smoke were always more acceptable for the older generations that is. Since then however the health food craze of the late 70s and subsequent facts emerging about how corporations are concealing tricks they use are making people rethink things over!
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11 Mar 2016   #1658
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
You would be surprised to learn just how much sugar and salt you eat without even having deserts! A good deal of the processed you buy in a grocery store are loaded with sodium and sugars to get people attracted to the tastes. That included packages of sliced meats being loaded with sugar as well as sodium levels in low sodium? and Supposedly No Sodium baked goods? Salt is still used for baking!

One thing you can glad you never did was taste a tobacco product while traditionally pipe smoking and cigars where you don't fully inhale the smoke were always more acceptable for the older generations that is. Since then however the health food craze of the late 70s and subsequent facts emerging about how corporations are concealing tricks they use are making people rethink things over!
Well yeah and then if I add that up with everything else I devour, I'm probably way over the calories I should have.

Oh well my father smokes a lot but he doesn't buy them he rolls the tobacco by hand with the thin paper and well I actually think it's a nice smell to it.

I've never understood nor seen the logic of this health food revelation going on right now, I guess I see the appeal but
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11 Mar 2016   #1659
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Well that's the thing the health food craze turned out to be another marketing strategy in the long run to compete with the junk food market! Likewise I have been keeping an eye on the vaping market to see if that starts leaning towards the vapers science vs corporate science when noticing the pricing factors where some places are keeping older gear marked up to full MSRP while some places will see the same marked down to only $10!

Much like the pc hardware trends saw a fast turnover of newer more powerful hardwares, faster cpus, more capacity between larger drives and maximum memory on boards you now see an influx of higher wattage gear not present only a couple years ago. With one of the first e-pipes for example you saw mechanical mod type Smoktech Guardian and then a 15w Guardian II model now being replaced by a 75w Guardian 3 version with sub ohm capability. I use that for an example since I have the first two already as well as several batteries and box mods with the latest now on pre-order status.

Another thing to mention is seeing first hand the effects when dropping smoke entirely for vaping and getting your taste buds back as well as an appetite. Some may find they will tend to snack more if not see larger meals! Food tastes much better and some may end up seeing the cravings turn to foods

For anyone interested in finding out more about the new documentary on vaping the web site for A Billion Lives can be looked over at: A Billion Lives | Documentary film about Government Failure, Big Business & the Vaping Revolution
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07 Apr 2016   #1660
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
The more people stop smoking or switch to vaping the better, I had a heart attack at 38 because of it (5 weeks after i'd given up), I just wish vaping would of been around then as I'd of moved off tobacco much sooner.
Here's one thing coming soon I think you won't want to miss namely a new documentary that surmisses nearly One Billion lives will be lost during this century due to smoking related diseases! The preview for this one coming out in June for so long before eventually making it to dvd is presently being reviews at film festivals in various locations.

This clip has been on YouTube for some time now since it was first announced as being in the works a year ago. a billion lives movie - Bing video

Turn on the Lights! Some media is now stepping up to the plate! The media is now starting to take a real look at vaping and no longer seeing the antifreeze found in ecigs crapola stories!

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Vaping, what was once thought of as just a passing trend years ago, has now turned into a supportive group, filled with community members encouraging others to quit the dirty habit of smoking.

The fairly new alternative to smoking cigarettes is no stranger to bad press, but we can't blame those who want to be overly cautious when the popularity of vaping is growing faster than the amount of research we have about it.

For years smoking cigarettes was socially acceptable and considered a healthy thing to do. Fast forward a few decades and we learned the hard way about the dangers and diseases smoking causes.
That was from one West Virginia local tv station's news segment. WDTV.COM 5 News: Stop Smoking, Start Vaping?

Now for the latest blog including news about the new documentary here's something every vaper will want to know!

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Published on: 16 April 2016


Kevin Crowley


E-cigarettes: Health issues improve for vapers in long term study

Long term effects of e-cigarette show positive results, reduced health problems



E-cigarette use and long term effects. Image courtesy Google CC

The study of long term effects of e-cigarettes and the use of vaping products is gaining momentum for those who are concerned about their health. In a six month study conducted by Dr. R. Cranfield from March to August of 2015, his research showed a 96% reduction in adverse health problems by users of three or more years. Conditions such as heart disease, high blood pressure and asthma improved by 61.8% of those diagnosed with those health issues while they smoked. There were only 10 users who had never smoked in the study, and none reported any adverse health events before or after use.


Success with vaping products

Cranfield explains that using e-cigarette products to quit smoking show a minimum of 52% success rate at three or more years, where over-the-counter stop smoking products are at a seven to eight percent success rate at six months. That equals "7 to 8 times greater" success with e-cigarettes. He went on to say one participant had "onset of diabetes" and one reported a respiratory issue. In his conclusion he stated more research should be done to determine risks, if any, of these products. He also noted the health effects of vaping products were "pronounced and very positive" with the reduced or resolutions of long term health issues reported by the users.


Published on:
16 April 2016

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E-cigarettes: Health issues improve for vapers in long term study

Long term effects of e-cigarette show positive results, reduced health problems


E-cigarette use and long term effects. Image courtesy Google CC Advertisements




The study of long term effects of e-cigarettes and the use of vaping products is gaining momentum for those who are concerned about their health. In a six month study conducted by Dr. R. Cranfield from March to August of 2015, his research showed a 96% reduction in adverse health problems by users of three or more years. Conditions such as heart disease, high blood pressure and asthma improved by 61.8% of those diagnosed with those health issues while they smoked. There were only 10 users who had never smoked in the study, and none reported any adverse health events before or after use.
Success with vaping products

Cranfield explains that using e-cigarette products to quit smoking show a minimum of 52% success rate at three or more years, where over-the-counter stop smoking products are at a seven to eight percent success rate at six months. That equals "7 to 8 times greater" success with e-cigarettes. He went on to say one participant had "onset of diabetes" and one reported a respiratory issue. In his conclusion he stated more research should be done to determine risks, if any, of these products. He also noted the health effects of vaping products were "pronounced and very positive" with the reduced or resolutions of long term health issues reported by the users.


Public Health Responsibility

Users of e-cigarettes around the world are still being met with extreme resistance and denial by most health groups and politicians. The inability to determine less harm from the effects of vaping products by alleged "experts" has been staggering. Instead of recognizing what e-cigarette users are saying, they are being met with proposals of regulation and vehement opposition. In this act of defiance, they are creating an illusion to generate revenue in the form of taxes and directly or indirectly are supporting tobacco use. The standard claim used by many public health and politicians alike is "we don't know enough" about the long term health issues associate with e-cigarette use. Now they have a reference point with Cranfield's study.


A documentary film

There is a documentary film called "A Billion Lives" about e-cigarettes, vaping and the consumer revolution they have created. This film will explain how health officials and politicians are concealing and ignoring facts, creating false statements to the public and what effect those actions have on the world to reduce tobacco use. The film will premiere May 11 at the Doc Edge international documentary film festival in New Zealand.

Original blastingnews blog page seen at: E-cigarettes: Health issues improve for vapers in long term study

Upon review of the study when requesting how to find it if it was published in any form I suddenly recalled remembering hearing about it but didn't have the minimum of three years or more of vaping experience in order to participate. The study is a long term assessment on the effects on health if any to be found and the 15 page study report is available for download in PDF format.
Ecigs Health Effects R Cranfield Nov 24 2015.pdf
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