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Windows 7: Windows 10 worse than windows 8

22 Feb 2015   #131
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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Interesting to see the browser market over time: Browser Statistics
That is based on just the users for a particular website. Other sources I've seen show IE much higher, if not in first place.
It seems that a lot of W3C users really love Chrome.

Also, don't forget that Web Developers hate IE (mostly because of the pre-IE10 versions).
You got that right! The only problems I ever have with IE 11 is because of lazy and/or incompetent web developers. When I complain that a website isn't working for me, the automatic response always is, "Have you tried another browser?", usually suggesting FireFox or Chrome. That's when I get my Irish up and come back both guns blazing (it isn't pretty)!
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22 Feb 2015   #132
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

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Interesting to see the browser market over time: Browser Statistics
That is based on just the users for a particular website. Other sources I've seen show IE much higher, if not in first place.
It seems that a lot of W3C users really love Chrome.

Also, don't forget that Web Developers hate IE (mostly because of the pre-IE10 versions).
That seems to be the case no matter what Microsoft does
John here 7-8-10 forums is a good example of not even entertaining ie
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22 Feb 2015   #133
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
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Well Windows 10 will need to be a lot better than Windows 8 if it's going to succeed.

Chart showing OS usage from Jan 2014 to Jan 2015:

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22 Feb 2015   #134
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Yeah, to incent the Win7 people to move is not going to be easy. From what I see right now, there is a lot of work to be done with the 10TP.
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22 Feb 2015   #135
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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Yeah, to incent the Win7 people to move is not going to be easy. From what I see right now, there is a lot of work to be done with the 10TP.
And yet they want to release it to RTM this June. That does not bode well.
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22 Feb 2015   #136
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
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That is based on just the users for a particular website. Other sources I've seen show IE much higher, if not in first place.
It seems that a lot of W3C users really love Chrome.

Also, don't forget that Web Developers hate IE (mostly because of the pre-IE10 versions).
That seems to be the case no matter what Microsoft does
John here 7-8-10 forums is a good example of not even entertaining ie
Chrome and Firefox based browsers seem to actually stick closer to the (alleged) web standards.

Putting in hacks to make a website work in IE, can easily double the amount of time required to build a website (especially if you are trying to make it work with multiple versions of IE).

In my web design course, we are supposed to check our sites against Chrome, FF and IE.
In practice our sites must work in Chrome and FF, but it is acceptable to simply list the IE errors (or to totally avoid certain features that are known to be dodgy in IE).
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22 Feb 2015   #137
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

To me Microsoft is trying to do to I.E. is what 3rd party anti virus are trying to do.

That is keep adding things and then adding more things until it is nothing but a bogged down POS.
I personally would be happy with a safe (to a degree) browser with out all the ding dongs and do dads.

I use Firefox but yet keep I.E. set as default. Windows 7 Updates seems to like it that way.
I also don't like the methods I.E. uses for font size. Their method is either to big or two small.
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01 Mar 2015   #138
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I suspect you will find that 8.0 and 8.1 were the "Great Experiments" leading upto 10 or the next to come as far as seeing a universal approach to a cross platform OS. The problem is that it will prove itself to be an OS that simply still won't satisfy everyone on all platforms.

On the more positive it usually takes MS a few versions before they get things to turn out right as had been seen with the Aero themes many rejected at first sight with Vista. ME flopped still being Fat while 2000 went over big in contrast having the NT core. XP while it grew popular and many hung onto that one was due to the late arrival of Vista while the old version had been rushed out when ME tanked. So expect a lot of hesitation when it comes to MS suddenly making the drastic changes from the success 7 is still seeing as far as people jumping at the newer versions.

W10 should prove to be better then 8, 8.1 in the sense that the initial bugs were worked out while the vast changes made are going to have their moments. The return of the new form of the Start Menu will be the most noticed with 10 out of everything however.
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01 Mar 2015   #139
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Fixing the Start Menu was a start but that is all.

Then people like me would give it a try and I did. Looking farther into Windows 10 so far doesn't give me any happy feeling towards W-10.
All I find is a lot of Toy R Us fluff.

It would be a great operating system for those that haven't reached puberty and are using a poke and smear Tablet.

I keep asking myself; self what does W-10 bring to the table that I can't do quite well on W-7.
I'm not getting a good response to make me use W-10 so far.
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01 Mar 2015   #140
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I still never got the preview on the second OS drive having been tied with other things but was simply looking at the track record MS has had. It's going to be a hard sell for most who got attached to 7 right off the bat to simply pack up and move onto W10?!

I simply don't see that happening any time soon! You saw that with XP as well when both Vista and 7 was any attraction to the XP fan club until people realized it was dead issue and moved on. But they moved up the ladder in the process while things are a bit shaky now. The gui will be the main obstacle for most while the actual updates as far as improvements will be tucked away under the hood once they get the bugs out. You won't be seeing the flexibility you have with 7 now however!
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