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Windows 7: Windows 10 worse than windows 8

23 Mar 2015   #171
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by macgig View Post
I dont know anyone with 8 that does not hate it. not one person lol. I like windows 7 actually, its very "mac like".

I dont know a thing about 10 but if it's like 8, I'll pass and stick with 7.
Apparently all people that do not want to stress their neurons.
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23 Mar 2015   #172
gregrocker

 

It is actually enough like Seven that I stuck with it for five months without going back to 7 until my mice starting bugging out. I was also annoyed the Live Tiles for News, Mail and Weather stopped updating in my Start Menu when I'd come to like that.

I thought I'd give it a break and came home to 7.

Anyone have an ISO for the latest version? I'm willing to try a Clean Install.
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23 Mar 2015   #173
chmegma

win 7 prof 64
 
 

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the idea that you consider

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as an easy way to not install programs that should ask me if i want them in the first place, and then end with

"Store itself cannot be removed but shouldn't be a deal breaker to anyone."

seems like you will just disregard what people say simply because you do not feel the same way.

since i will not be able to keep the store off of my computer if i switch to win 10, will i be able to keep it turned off so that it does not perform a search as i type?
This whole debate is really getting funny. The vast majority of users of Windows 8 and later use a Microsoft Account, and even quite a many of those starting with a local account later on convert it to an MS Account. Of course Microsoft should make the Windows as ready as possible to majority of its users, especially when the Modern apps when present and not removed need never be launched and used if a user does not want to.

I presented a procedure for those who just out of principal reasons want to get rid of those apps, making the install process a few minutes longer. What I said is that OK, if those apps you don't have to use disturb you there's an easy way to remove them while installing. Installation takes a few minutes more but that's it.

The apps need naturally be there for the majority. It is much less hassle and much better customer service from Microsoft's side to offer us users of an MS account a full version but leave the option to get a reduced version if a user so wishes. It would be plain stupid to make Windows for the minority and then tell the majority to download this and that if they want a full version.

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... since i will not be able to keep the store off of my computer if i switch to win 10, will i be able to keep it turned off so that it does not perform a search as i type?
That is something I do not understand. Where on earth have you geeks found this, is this debate already gone so far that you don't even bother to check if your "I heard it" pseudo facts are true or not?

What has Store to do with Search? This is the Windows 10 Search when I searched Weather:
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Another search, this one shows one Modern (Store) app related to my search but again, what on earth has Store to do with Search?
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The biggest problem I have with these mostly ungrounded and invalid "facts" you geeks present is that as far as I know nobody has forced you nor will force you to use Windows in general and Windows 10 in particular. If that's so bad and dysfunctional in your opinion, please get a Mac or download one of the Linux distros.

It's not me who is disregarding the opinion of others. I have done my best to correct some most common untrues, invalid pseudo facts I have read. I feel quite often that it's the opposing forces who have totally forgotten, don't even want to admit that some of us are quite happy with new Windows; in fact, check any Windows related site and you'll find that the Windows 10 has already months before its release date quite a wide fan base.

first, i presented no facts, i asked a question.

while attempting to gatther the info on win 10, and wether or not i am going to switch, i came across an article that spoke about the serach funtion. the writer was impressed with it, and mentioned a part about searching in one area also searched the app store for windows.

he liked it, i do not. i do not want my computer connecting to the internet every time a i do a search on my computer. if i want a new program to do something, i will look for it.

now, i am here asking if this is so. i asked in my first post for those in the know to inform me.

you seem entirely to angry with your petty insults. maybe take a step back, and give that horse a rest
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23 Mar 2015   #174
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
It is actually enough like Seven that I stuck with it for five months without going back to 7 until my mice starting bugging out.

Anyone have an ISO for the latest version? I'm back to Seven now but willing to give it a Clean Install.
Kari made a tut on how to create an iso file

ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums
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23 Mar 2015   #175
gregrocker

 

Yes, I'd used that before. But I don't have an ESD file.
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23 Mar 2015   #176
chmegma

win 7 prof 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by macgig View Post
I dont know anyone with 8 that does not hate it. not one person lol. I like windows 7 actually, its very "mac like".

I dont know a thing about 10 but if it's like 8, I'll pass and stick with 7.

funny thing to me is that i like it for the phone.

i finally had to break down and get me one, and the win 8.1 nokia was on sale for 40 bucks and i got it.

i like the interface for it. i just don't like it for the pc/laptop. as far as i am conccerned they should have just made a seperate os for the mobile and touch devices.
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23 Mar 2015   #177
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Yes, I'd used that before. But I don't have an ESD file.
Build 10041 ESD files and decrypt.zip are available here:
ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Page 14 - Windows 10 Forums
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23 Mar 2015   #178
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by macgig View Post
I dont know anyone with 8 that does not hate it. not one person lol. I like windows 7 actually, its very "mac like".
Really? Now you know one, I like 8 and especially 8.1 very much although I have to admit I like 10 even more.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chmegma View Post
...while attempting to gatther the info on win 10, and wether or not i am going to switch, i came across an article that spoke about the serach funtion. the writer was impressed with it, and mentioned a part about searching in one area also searched the app store for windows.
Really, that's an issue? Windows search should not show any Store content, however relevant it is to your search, because you don't want it?

Should we start making a wish list for Microsoft for search results we want to be left out? Personally I do not like games where you kill people, I fail to see the fun in killing be it virtual or real. So that's one, Microsoft should leave out all search results about violent games because I don't like them.

I don't like rain and winter, there's the next one: no Windows search results should show anything about bad weather.

I love reading whereas my brother is proud of the fact that he has not read a book since leaving the school. Please Microsoft, my brother and quite a many other people don't like books and reading, Windows and Bing search results should not include anything about them.

And so on.
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23 Mar 2015   #179
JDobbsy1987

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
I like 8 and especially 8.1 very much although I have to admit I like 10 even more.
I couldn't agree more with this statement, exactly my personal feeling towards 8/8.1 and 10.

I all fairness XP was great, 7 even better, skipped vista, loved 8 and then 8.1 more and believe 10 will prevail above all for me
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23 Mar 2015   #180
gregrocker

 

Ten has the potential to bridge the chasm between 7 and 8 but MS will have to let go of a few of their faulty Store assumptions first. Unfortunately by giving it away they are pointing to the intention to double down on the Store model where apps are rented and I don't think people will pay for them, not their billion+ desktop customers who are trained and set in the Windows model.

I suggested to the Ten Team at Global MVP Summit that they start with a video popup that enticed new users to "See all your webmail accounts in one easy-to-configure Mailbox" then quickly demo's the Mail app features and how to set it up. This provides IMO the most useful app up front as a testbed for the user to see how they do. If they take to it and use it, intuitively offer the next most useful app in a similar popup video that is done cleverly and cute enough that it isn't just another annoying notification popup. Gradually wean app-phobic users to the Apps, like they did me over five months to adopt Mail, Calendar, Weather, News and Pictures. Then if they don't stop live-updating on the Start Screen like mine did, you'll have more app-centric users.

The problem is then that I still dont' think they'll pay for them. They're going to need to sell games, Office and higher value apps to make up the difference, lay off the users with the Apps except to be sure they know how they're used if they want them.
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