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Windows 7: Should I Get Windows 10?

25 Aug 2015   #21
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

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Men of few words
You can still join the insiders program and try it before you replace your 7 install
https://insider.windows.com/
You can also run it on a VM or plan a dual boot with 7! There are some options available for trying 10 as well as still keeping 7 around! Things to know first?

1)First install of 10 to be a free install? Upgrade over existing or as was done here over temp install of 7 with SP1 still required.

2)Upgrade installs whether downloading the Media Creation Tool or waiting for the download through the Windows updates can prove to be buggy where a second repair install by way of seeing a 10 upgrade over 10 to repair the incomplete initial upgrade or once the upgrade is activated perform a clean install to either a separate partition or drive.

3)When going to upgrade the first time around or when planning a clean install review the guides for this over at Ten Forums as that can save you time and a world of headaches!

4) First backup all of your important files if planning to upgrade over the existing copy of 7 and be sure any additional hard drives without any OS on them are "Unplugged"! as it was fast learned here during the first failed attempts at getting the downloaded and saved to drive ISO disk images written to usb flash drive made bootable by both the MC tool and 3rd party program wouldn't see 10 go on! The boot files ended up on one of the two storage drives that had been since removed and the temp install/recovery folders on the other storage resulting in not seeing 10 go on until review of the clean install guide.

5) When going to check on system hardware compatibility the Windows logo icon will detect and record the hardware information for you and indicate that your system is compatible if you are going to be able to see 10 go on. When clicking to reserve a free copy expect the first of two emails to indicate it has been reserved and a second to come later suggesting not waiting for several days or weeks with a link to the download page for the Media Creation tools which can see an immediate online upgrade, skip to the next option of creating a USB Installation Key with a 4gb flash drive, skip to the next again to see the option to burn to dvd or save as and iso download.

Those screens come after you have selected 10 Home or Pro, 32bit or 64bit or the combination 32/64 download which will not burn to disk but will require at least an 6gb flash drive if you can find one? while 8gb are common place. That's due to the nearly 6gb size of the combined iso download! And of course if you had previously heard that Windows 8 saw the Start menu replaced by the Metro screen you won't have to worry about getting some 3rd party Start menu replacement program as 10 has seen the return of the Start menu!

The new version also has some other interesting features being brought in while performance is close to what you see in 7 due to the new reduction of memory used per process efforts. While 10 is slightly larger to support the dual platform OS strategy of Desktop/Mobile it's not a "resource hog" while the installation takes as long as a rule as it took Vista and 8 didn't get to try 8.1 here at all while 7 on average is only 20 minutes or so seeing the first restart at 12 minutes.

Compatibility? That will always be a problem for any newer version while most everything besides the next newer build for your antivirus or firewall program will likely be a must since 10 is three versions newer then 7. Yet an old Legacy/9x pc game goes right onto the 64bit 10 and runs as usual?! Got to hand it to MS there!
Little wordy
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25 Aug 2015   #22
ZacharyB

Windows 7 x64
 
 

NONONONONONO there are wayyyy too many problems atm wait like a month then get it wait till microsoft gets there **** together.
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25 Aug 2015   #23
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Most of the problems caused by installing Windows 10 are caused by PEBCAK - the operator not reading/following instructions, or installing using the ISO because they get impatient waiting to get the update through WU (or because of an interfering AV, which should be uninstalled, not just switched off during the install).
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25 Aug 2015   #24
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

The biggest error is not reading the privacy and terms of use
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25 Aug 2015   #25
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

I had read that requires specific hardware to install the W10(when they started talking about Windows 10). Right now I have the page but I think it had to do with motherboards.

But as to the question it is better to wait a year to be optimized to 100%.
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26 Aug 2015   #26
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

When clicking on the 10 app you see on the task bar your hardware profile is examined and the result of whether or not your system is compatible are displayed as part of the process of reserving the free copy via upgrade process only. Following the guide over at Ten Forums there for the upgrade or subsequent clean install of the new version is certainly the first smart move to make since that will take you through things one step at a time.

The dual boot here of seeing 10 as the host/boot drive along with 7 has been working out quite well in fact compared to the headaches previously seen with the 7/8 CP dual boot where both versions would suddenly fail to start up. First it was 8 added into the 7 BCD as the new entry followed by the PC Refresh of 8 when it suddenly as well as 7 failed to start up normally due to the unexplained result of disk errors on two separate drives I dual boot across.

So far no such bad endings have been seen with 10 now three versions newer then 7 and all you need is the latest version of EasyBCD to play well while the 2.0.1 version still works on 10 as well as a number of other things except you may need a newer version of this or that as far as your av program as well as a few other softwares. And the av program isn't always a concern since the 10 installer unloads the 7 desktop as it works during the upgrade as any other upgrade would be shutting down the previous version's processes as well as apps during the install as it packs things up in the Windows.old when opted to save files.

For trying 10 out having a second drive and temp install of 7, 8, or 8.1 to upgrade over will allow you to preserve the existing 7 installation if not by way of full system image backup of 7 ahead of time to try out the new version for 30 days when you will no longer be able to revert back as long as the Window.old folder is still present on the drive as many opt to see that cleaned off fast with the DiskCleanup tool in 10.

Some don't like the new Start menu while the tile factor there is nothing as severe as looking at 8's "Metro in you face"! approach MS has with that one! And as I knew back in '12 it would take MS a few more versions to start shaping things up as far as bringing in a dual platform type OS as typically seen in the past. As for a year wait how many waited a year to try 7 out? when that was the new kid on the street?

As I recall people were jumping on it during the October 2009 launch! I'll likely wait now for the new version's usb flash drive to see SP1 or what will be before buying the installation key no longer seeing optical media coming from MS as far as Windows is concerned. That will be full install media only which still includes the upgrade option as any other full install media has.
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26 Aug 2015   #27
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

I found it. In the requirements also mentioned UEFI 2.3.1. It's necessary ?

I think waiting a year is much For W7/8/8.1 there are still a few more years of support then we will have to use it. W10 It will only be free for a year.
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26 Aug 2015   #28
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Support for 7 lasts until early 2020 whlle 10 will see a full 10yrs. of support until 2026 but only seen now as a free upgrade over the previous versions! The full install media on read only usb flash drives is presently available at the MS online store for purchasing 10 outright if you have a new build just put together but lacking any OS to upgrade from. No more dvds to scratch!

As for the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface seen on newer model Intel boards mostly the Secure Boot option in the bios setup program has to be disabled until the installation of 10 is complete. This has been one issue where Legacy booting from a flash drive is necessary to see the installation work. Here I have a few older AMD models boards that don't run into that any and saw 10 go on as the 8 Customer Preview did back in 2012 without a hitch as far as the installation went.

There is one thing to note and why some upgrades to 10 are running into problems not so much with 8 or 8.1 but upgrades from 7 to 10 being three versions different where 8 brought in the new Secure boot process of invalidating other OSs. With 10 also seeing the same the upgrade from the newer to latest seems to be going smoother for many while other upgrades from 7 to 10 come out buggy! Once activated however you can perform the second clean install to generally see working results and find 10 will run quite stable.

Here I set up the two desktops with a 10/7 dual boot across two drives adding a second drive in on the second mini tower and the 7 laptop which only saw the upgrade followed by the clean 32 install which was then to see a 3rd 64bit install. Been busy with installations lately! The only thing I couldn't do however on the laptop after getting rid of the HP bloatwares was resize the OS primary where now I have to go back and nuke the drive entirely to fill in the 17gb space left by the two small parts! Those weren't even recovery partitions but for HP and 3rd party apps only! Can do without those!
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28 Aug 2015   #29
rundwald

Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
The biggest error is not reading the privacy and terms of use
Yes, a respected, mainly internet, forum over this side has severe concerns about how much control of personal data and activity is capable of being handed over to M'soft under the terms.

The other thing not liked is lack of control over Windows Update
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28 Aug 2015   #30
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yes the terms of use are pretty wild,
Outlook.com/ Hotmail/.. Onedrive on steroids applying to the entire os thrown in with some key loggers just for good measure :/
But if using a M$ account I suppose I can understand but I certainly would never use a M$ account on a os
So that alone is a no deal.

Windows updates is not a deal breaker but the above is.
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