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Windows 7: Question about the Cloud ?

15 Feb 2016   #1
Arcadian

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Question about the Cloud ?

Not familiar with the Cloud at all but having lost a memory stick recently luckily with nothing important on it, I've been wondering if saving really vital info especially in case the hard drive crashes, if it's a better option to store it all on say Amazon Cloud etc....

Anyone with any experience of this....?

Thanks
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15 Feb 2016   #2
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

No matter what media you use, be it a USB stick, a HDD, the Cloud, etc. all media will eventually fail, given enough time. Your data will not be safe unless it exists in at least three places, such as on your computer, on an onsite backup, and on an offsite backup.

All the Cloud is is a server somewhere filled with HDDs that is accessed via the internet. The main dangers to using the cloud include a possible lack of security or data loss should the service fail. Free cloud websites are notorious for getting hacked and/or disappearing with little or notice. The paid sites are far more reliable and secure.

If you are keeping data on a USB stick because you don't have enough room for it on your computer, I strongly recommend replacing the existing HDD with a larger one so you will have room for all your data. Then use something to create an onsite backup on something such as a USB stick, or, better still, an external HDD. You could use a second USB stick or external HDD for the offsite backup or use a good, paid cloud backup service, such as Carbonite.com (my personal preference), Crashplan, or Backblaze.

More on backups. A true backup is data that is replicated on another medium that is kept disconnected from your computer except when updating the computer. An onsite backup is one that is kept in the same area as the computer itself. However, since a catastrophe, such as fire, flood, theft, etc. could cause you to lose both your computer and your onsite backup, you also need an offsite backup. An offsite backup is the same as an onsite backup except it is kept somewhere away from where your computer and onsite backup are kept; the farther the better, such as in a locked drawer or locker at work, a trusted friend's or neighbor's house, or in a safe deposit box at your bank. The only downside to an offsite backup is any data you acquire or change after you last updated the offsite backup will be lost if you lose your computer and onsite backup.

Updating an offsite backup is logistically difficult but an easy way around that is to use a good paid cloud backup service, such as one of the ones I've already mentioned. Those service install a small program on your computer that will work in the background and upload any new or changed data to your cloud backup. This makes it much easier to keep your offsite backup up to date. Good cloud backup services will also have versioning. Versioning means discarded data is kept on hand for a certain amount of time so it can be recovered should the current copy get lost or damaged.

What I've described are basic backup schemes which will serve most people quite well. You can get far more elaborate (and expensive) should you need more protection due to a larger amount of data or more critical data than most people have or need faster access to the backups.
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15 Feb 2016   #3
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arcadian View Post
Not familiar with the Cloud at all but having lost a memory stick recently luckily with nothing important on it, I've been wondering if saving really vital info especially in case the hard drive crashes, if it's a better option to store it all on say Amazon Cloud etc....

Anyone with any experience of this....?

Thanks
Try Google Drive. It's easy and you get 15GB free. With any network/cloud storage, protect sensitive information by zipping it using 7Zip or similar archiving software, using a strong password.

Google Drive has worked flawlessly for me since Day 1.
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15 Feb 2016   #4
Arcadian

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Great thanks just what I needed to know...

I think what I'll do is to put all the important long term stuff into two separate memory sticks and hide one somewhere in the house, and the other with an Aunt who interestingly hates all things computerised not having got any further than a phone and fax so that should be safe enough I think ! Though I won't say what's in it !

Once there's just the ordinary things left and I've had a look at the links above, to put them into one of the cloud suggestions, sort of giving them a trial run if needed for later....

Again thanks a lot very much appreciated....!!
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15 Feb 2016   #5
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Yep I'd only use quality flash drives PNY has some good ones
But ultimately an exterior enclosure with a real Western digital black series hard drive is best for system images and other data backups.

I use Onedrive for piddly stuff I don't care what happens to it
I use it as a website accessed by a browser not installed on the machine so I can manually go there and upload when and what I want too and it does nothing in the background possibly soaking up resources from other activities I'm doing or auto starting with windows.
Good for low powered machines.
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15 Feb 2016   #6
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

While many people have used Google drive for years without any problems, my warning about free cloud storage still holds. Google is infamous for discontinuing services with little warning. Google is also infamous for snooping in people's data. unless you use your own encryption, anything you send to Google will be seen by them. The three Cloud backup services (not the same as cloud storage) I mentioned earlier use encryption for which you can hold the key. They nor anyone else can access your data.
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15 Feb 2016   #7
Arcadian

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

How about Amazon....?
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15 Feb 2016   #8
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Amazon Cloud Drive used to be free up to 5GB; now it's free only if you pay the Prime extortion (an example how free services can change on you). Considering how Amazon's customer service has been plummeting, I wouldn't trust their Cloud Drive. Keep in mind you usually get only what you pay for.
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04 Mar 2016   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

And what if Amazon goes bankrupt - which is a possibility.
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04 Mar 2016   #10
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
And what if Amazon goes bankrupt - which is a possibility.
Yes, it's possible. So is me winning a million dollars in the lottery.

The potential for Amazon's bankruptcy isn't the reason I wouldn't trust their cloud services. Poor security and their habit of changing up their services would worry me far more.
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