NSA & Windows 7 - What do you all think about this?

Vendetta

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What does the National Security Agency have to do with Microsoft? Apparently, a lot. The NSA worked with Microsoft in its development of the Windows 7 operating software. And the relationship may stretch further back -- as far as the late 80's and previous operating systems manufactured by the company. Is this cause for concern for people who want to ensure their privacy? Is this another exmaple of Big Brother watching?

EclippTV :: Video :: NSA could be looking through your Windows :mad:

Anything we can do to disable any of their spying junk if this is indeed going on?
 

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Vendetta said:
Anything we can do to disable any of their spying junk if this is indeed going on?
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Yeah, switch to another operating system that provides you with all of the source code so that you can see exactly what is going on and you have complete control to change it any way you want to fit any need you may have.
 

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Not going to lose any sleep over it; if they can find something on my system that is of importance to the security of this nation or any other nation they are welcomed to it. :p
 

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Lee said:
Not going to lose any sleep over it; if they can find something on my system that is of importance to the security of this nation or any other nation they are welcomed to it. :p
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If you live in the United States, you just have to live with it.

If you have something that really needs to be hidden from the Government like that, you might want to think about going to Canada.
 

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Regardless of whether you have something to hide or not, it is morally wrong.

It's akin to me building a house and selling it - but intentionally neglecting to mention I have installed hidden cameras everywhere.
 

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And you want to do what???
 

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NSA have no jurisdiction here anyway.
 

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Tews said:
And you want to do what???
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*PANT PANT PANT*
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swarfega said:
NSA have no jurisdiction here anyway.
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I have absolutely nothing to fear from the NSA, but that's beside the point.

I'm just sick to death of peoples personal privacy being invaded every where you go and then blatantly being lied to about it.

Especially when it comes to the legal paradox that if I were to engage in this type of behaviour, I would be considered a criminal and punished accordingly. However since they are 'sanctioned and legal', they are free to engage in this fashion without fear of repercussions.

Understanding the need and motives is one thing, accepting or condoning it is another thing entirely.
 

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Since there's no evidence that the NSA had MS build a backdoor into Windows, I decline to get my panties in a twist over this.

MS, Apple and Linux all have worked with the NSA to harden their OS's, to make them more secure.

On the other hand, there is no evidence that the NSA hasn't had MS, Apple and Linux build in backdoors either.

Just to be safe, I, for one, welcome our new alien lizard overlords....


Merry Christmas!
 
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If you watched that video fully, they did admit to putting some kind of backdoor in the code of th Windows 7.

WiFi Ed said:
Since there's no evidence that the NSA had MS build a backdoor into Windows, I decline to get my panties in a twist over this.

MS, Apple and Linux all have worked with the NSA to harden their OS's, to make them more secure.

On the other hand, there is no evidence that the NSA hasn't had MS, Apple and Linux build in backdoors either.

Just to be safe, I, for one, welcome our new alien lizard overlords....


Merry Christmas!
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I agree...

smarteyeball said:
Regardless of whether you have something to hide or not, it is morally wrong.

It's akin to me building a house and selling it - but intentionally neglecting to mention I have installed hidden cameras everywhere.
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Well, what I saw was some guy on TV claiming that MS put something in that could be helpful to the NSA. He did not provide any evidence or proof that it was an actual NSA backdoor, or that it was "bad" in any way.

I've also seen people on TV saying that crop circles are real alien artifacts, that the moon landing never occurred, and that the world will end in 2012. I rank their credibility as being equal with this claim.

Let me be clear. I am more than willing to believe that governments want to control and dominate their serfs, ermm, I mean citizens. The current "healthcare" debacle in Washington D.C. is a perfect example of this desire. I just haven't seen any proof this natural tendency to enslave us has extended to Windows...

Vendetta said:
If you watched that video fully, they did admit to putting some kind of backdoor in the code of th Windows 7.

WiFi Ed said:
Since there's no evidence that the NSA had MS build a backdoor into Windows, I decline to get my panties in a twist over this.

MS, Apple and Linux all have worked with the NSA to harden their OS's, to make them more secure.

On the other hand, there is no evidence that the NSA hasn't had MS, Apple and Linux build in backdoors either.

Just to be safe, I, for one, welcome our new alien lizard overlords....


Merry Christmas!
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Well, if they're wanting full control, they are getting there with all the unconstitutional bills being passed under our noses.

Off topic, but as for the crop circle, there are some crazy designs that in no way someone can pull off with some ropes and a board. I've witness UFOs a couple of times in my life and used to be a skeptic of "alien" stuff, but to think we're the only one in this huge universe is being really small minded.

WiFi Ed said:
Well, what I saw was some guy on TV claiming that MS put something in that could be helpful to the NSA. He did not provide any evidence or proof that it was an actual NSA backdoor, or that it was "bad" in any way.

I've also seen people on TV saying that crop circles are real alien artifacts, that the moon landing never occurred, and that the world will end in 2012. I rank their credibility as being equal with this claim.

Let me be clear. I am more than willing to believe that governments want to control and dominate their serfs, ermm, I mean citizens. The current "healthcare" debacle in Washington D.C. is a perfect example of this desire. I just haven't seen any proof this natural tendency to enslave us has extended to Windows...

Vendetta said:
If you watched that video fully, they did admit to putting some kind of backdoor in the code of th Windows 7.

WiFi Ed said:
Since there's no evidence that the NSA had MS build a backdoor into Windows, I decline to get my panties in a twist over this.

MS, Apple and Linux all have worked with the NSA to harden their OS's, to make them more secure.

On the other hand, there is no evidence that the NSA hasn't had MS, Apple and Linux build in backdoors either.

Just to be safe, I, for one, welcome our new alien lizard overlords....


Merry Christmas!
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Vendetta said:
Well, if they're wanting full control, they are getting there with all the unconstitutional bills being passed under our noses.

Off topic, but as for the crop circle, there are some crazy designs that in no way someone can pull off with some ropes and a board. I've witness UFOs a couple of times in my life and used to be a skeptic of "alien" stuff, but to think we're the only one in this huge universe is being really small minded.
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Vendetta,

We are in full agreement regarding the first sentence! As far as aliens go, I don't see any reason why there couldn't be life elsewhere in the universe, I just don't think they would choose to communicate with us by drawing designs in crop fields or abducting some poor schmucks from rural areas.

I could be wrong, of course...

Respectfully yours,

Ed
 

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We the people have allowed this to happen. . .thus we the people will have to live with it. . .:rolleyes:
 

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