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Windows 7: Intel i7 and AMD phenom II x4 question

07 Apr 2010   #1

windows 7 professional x86bit
 
 
Intel i7 and AMD phenom II x4 question

Hello all, just a quick question, i haven't built my own computer before and i'm not yet comfortable with buying all the parts and then building my own cause if i do something probably wont be compatible with something else and ill have wasted my money. So i was going to buy one ready made from dell and slowly as i feel comfortable upgrade that. The thing I was wondering is if i could swap out the Intel Core i7-920 that comes with it for an AMD Phenom II X4 965 since it was better and pretty cheap. Thanks for the help in advanced.
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07 Apr 2010   #2

W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
 
 

Not unless Dell offers the option. The reason being that Intel Processors and AMD processors connect to the motherboard using different sockets.

In other words, you'd have to buy a new motherboard as well to switch to that processor.
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07 Apr 2010   #3
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

The I7 is an awsome processor and good for a lot of OC'ing. Why would you want to swap that.

Quote:
And in the end of our today’s investigation, we will be able to give you a recipe for successful overclocking that will allow you to make a $300 CPU run much faster than one of the most expensive processors in the market today
Source of the quote: Intel Core i7-920 Overclocking Guide - X-bit labs
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07 Apr 2010   #4

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Without a doubt, the i7 is the higher performing chip. You might save a few bucks going the AMD route...but unless it's substantial, I would just stick with the Intel.
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07 Apr 2010   #5
whs
Microsoft MVP

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Without a doubt, the i7 is the higher performing chip. You might save a few bucks going the AMD route...but unless it's substantial, I would just stick with the Intel.
The AMD is $92 cheaper - at Newegg.
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07 Apr 2010   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Without a doubt, the i7 is the higher performing chip. You might save a few bucks going the AMD route...but unless it's substantial, I would just stick with the Intel.
The AMD is $92 cheaper - at Newegg.
I guess it all depends upon the value of $92 to you? For example, if this is a $1,000 computer...$92 isn't that much cash. If it's a $400 computer, that's a significant difference.
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07 Apr 2010   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Without a doubt, the i7 is the higher performing chip. You might save a few bucks going the AMD route...but unless it's substantial, I would just stick with the Intel.
The AMD is $92 cheaper - at Newegg.
I guess it all depends upon the value of $92 to you? For example, if this is a $1,000 computer...$92 isn't that much cash. If it's a $400 computer, that's a significant difference.
LOL, if you find me a $400 PC with an I7, I buy it. Last I was tempted to buy was $960. It was a Toshiba laptop.
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07 Apr 2010   #8

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RAHU View Post
Hello all, just a quick question, i haven't built my own computer before and i'm not yet comfortable with buying all the parts and then building my own cause if i do something probably wont be compatible with something else and ill have wasted my money. So i was going to buy one ready made from dell and slowly as i feel comfortable upgrade that. The thing I was wondering is if i could swap out the Intel Core i7-920 that comes with it for an AMD Phenom II X4 965 since it was better and pretty cheap. Thanks for the help in advanced.
I had never built one before my first. I'll not pay someone to do it for me again.
To find compatibility read till your eyes bleed. Newegg product reviews are a great place to get info. Some people bitch about petty little things but most are full of useful information. Start with a processor you can afford and work your way out from there. Check the motherboard site for qualified RAM etc.
Other than that it's like a really cool erector set.
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07 Apr 2010   #9

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RAHU View Post
So i was going to buy one ready made from dell and slowly as i feel comfortable upgrade that. The thing I was wondering is if i could swap out the Intel Core i7-920 that comes with it for an AMD Phenom II X4 965 since it was better and pretty cheap. Thanks for the help in advanced.
As others have pointed out, you cannot swap an i7 for a 965 due to them being completely different sockets.

The 965 is a fine chip, but the i7 is better, particularly when overclocked - however not all Dell models will allow you to overclock due to 'locked BIOS' limitations.

Some models are unlocked, or are even 'pre-overclocked' by Dell - but these are generally only available in the more expensive model ranges.


As daunting as building your own PC from scratch can be, it's surprisingly easy to do.

There are a plethora of tutorials available on the net and of course there are several of us here that would be happy to help you select the right components and walk you through the process if need be.
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08 Apr 2010   #10

Windows 8.1 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
The I7 is an awsome processor and good for a lot of OC'ing. Why would you want to swap that.
That's a pretty negligible point when it comes to something like a pre-built Dell
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