| Windows 7: Format shifting dead trees: can e-book piracy be ethica |
08 Apr 2010
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#1 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
Format shifting dead trees: can e-book piracy be ethica Found this over on ars technica, and found it quite interesting. Thought some of you might enjoy a little reading on a truly interesting topic. Format shifting dead trees: can e-book piracy be ethical?
By Nate Anderson
A question of ethics: say you want a new novel bad— really bad—but you want the digital version for your Kindle/iPad/Sony Reader. The publisher, hoping to goose sales of the book in hardcover for $28, isn't about to offer a $10 e-book version until the novel comes out in paperback. So you buy the hardcover and then pirate a homebrew e-book, which someone has helpfully made available in one of the darker corners of the Internet. Should you be fitted for an eye patch and peg leg?
As a matter of law, you probably are a pirate (or, to be accurate, an infringer). But the interesting question isn't one of law, it's one of ethics, and New York Times syndicated columnist Randy Cohen tackled the conundrum in last week's "The Ethicist" column.
His answer might surprise you, appearing as it does in the pages and on the websites of newspapers, which are so concerned about piracy that many are lobbying for a new federal "hot news" law.
"An illegal download is—to use an ugly word—illegal. But in this case, it is not unethical," writes Cohen. "Author and publisher are entitled to be paid for their work, and by purchasing the hardcover, you did so. Your subsequent downloading is akin to buying a CD, then copying it to your iPod. Read More
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08 Apr 2010
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Personally, I'm not a fan of stealing products, but I don't mind if you use an "illegal" copy to evaluate the product. Basically, give yourself a window to test the product and if you plan on using it after that point, buy it.
I.E.
Program - Give yourself a week.
Tv Shows - Give yourself 2 episodes out of a season
Movie - Watch the first 15-20 minutes
Book - Read the first chapter or two.
Granted, this is obviously not a real policy in any regard. This already works to a certain extent. In many e-book sites you can download the first chapter or two. Many software programs give you 30 days access to a trial version. It's a little more of a grey area when it comes to visual media but I think you guys get the drift.
EDIT: I may be putting my neck on the chopping block with this position, but I don't see any reason to keep my mouth shut on the subject. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
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08 Apr 2010
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Well, as an owner of a Kindle I think one of the key features to my enjoyment of the device is that I can get new books for $10 or thereabouts. It would be extremely disappointing if I had to wait for a year + to purchase the copy of the book for $10 on the Kindle. Plus, if I could physically get a paperback for $7.99 at the store..why would I buy the $10 kindle version...usually the Kindle paperbacks are like $4.
I personally think there are enough people without the technology that the publishers should continue to make lots of sales on the actual hard covers and I think as people begin to shift towards ebook readers the lower prices will result in more people taking a chance and buying the book. I mean, with hardcovers..you have cost of printing, shipping, etc which are all eliminated with electronic copies...thus the electronic copies can cost less and still net similar profits.
The other thing that has to be taken into account is the sharing of physical books. I know that I have purchased numerous hard covers that I have read and then shared with many coworkers and family members who also wanted to read the book, but weren't willing to pay $30 for it. But I'm not about to bring my Kindle to work and give it to a coworker so they can read the $4 copy of Shutter Island that I bought.
One benefit of the ebook format is that I don't have to find a place to store copies of all of these books...but on the downside I am unable to sell the book back at a used bookstore in electronic format.
I see nothing wrong with format shifting for personal use as long as you purchased the original...but don't share it with others. There is a big difference with buying a book and letting a friend borrow it, versus copying an e-book and distributing it freely to thousands on a p2p site. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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08 Apr 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Cromer Norfolk UK |
i think in a way i agree with this bit Quote: "Author and publisher are entitled to be paid for their work, and by purchasing the hardcover, you did so. Your subsequent downloading is akin to buying a CD, then copying it to your iPod. i will probably get shot for saying this... but a few weeks ago i bought a game, i got it home, and it didnt work due to a disk problem, as i bought it second hand i couldn't get a refund, so i went and downloaded it from a torrent site, now to me i dont think i did anything wrong, i bought the copy fair and square, i put my LEGAL license key in to it, its just the method i obtained it by was technically illegal | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Memory 8GB 1333Mhz DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Acer Al1980, Screen Resolution 1360*768 Keyboard Alba USB Mouse IT Works Wireless USB PSU 750W Cooler Master Case Cooler Master Haf X Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives 500GB SATA WBC
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08 Apr 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate San Diego |
Personally I think it was actually less ethical to kill a tree to feel good about using an illegal version off the net than the act of using the illegal copy itself. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
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08 Apr 2010
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#6 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
Like Park I too have a Kindle, and fine it a very good devise. As to hardback books I have a rather large collection that I have purchased over the past forty years, and now I can see no reason to buy a hard with eBooks coming down in price. It is just nice to be able to go on line and download a book onto the Kindle then set back and read. The Kindle is also great when I go back packing for a couple of days at a time. It is light weight enough to carry a long so I can set by the fire at night and read.
Now paper back books are nice to have because they are easy to trade with others. When I make my three month trip to the VA for checkups I know that there will be a huge stack of paper backs other veterans and veteran groups will bring in, so I take all the ones I have bought or trade others with along with me for trading. The motto at the VA is "Take One, Leave One." | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a4302f OS Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz Memory 12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25" Screen Resolution 1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Case Mid Tower Cooling Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet) Hard Drives Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
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