I'm sorry, but AMD is just really... out of it. They and ATI both. Not only is AMD more concerned with breaking a world record (hence, being the "first to do something") but ATI uses GDDR 5 graphics memory... really?!!!! Totally unnecessary. It astounds me that Nvidia's GTX series blows these supposedly "awesome" GDDR 5 chips out of the water, just as much as it astounds me that Intel's Core i7 can blow the latest AMD fiasco out of the water. For me, my Core 2 Duo overclocked to 2.97 from 2.4 is incredible. No problems, no... noticeable anything. The last time I had an AMD, I had to take the tower into Computer Renaissance (now bankrupt) and have them fix it up on more than one occasion.