| Windows 7: Stop The Madness Steve Jobs! |
13 Apr 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit Brooklyn, NY |
Stop The Madness Steve Jobs! An open letter from an Apple developer to the madman who is Steve Jobs. I think this really portrays what the little guys are going through when they decide to make and submit their iPhone applications to the App Store. Very interesting read, take a look. Quote: These new terms will shut down many current developers, and disallow many popular game engines and other “middlewares.” This is a letter to Steve Jobs protesting these new terms.
Other developers please post comments to show your support as well as tell your stories. Now is the time for us to band together, spread the word, and help Stop The Madness.
Opinions on the matter? Stop The Madness Steve Jobs! | My System Specs |
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13 Apr 2010
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It's a business, if you don't like it then you should probably switch to something with a more liberal policy. Android still around? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
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13 Apr 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit Brooklyn, NY |
I think the best way to shut him up is to stop developing for the platform and go for the next big thing: Android, which is definitely going to take over the iPhone. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 3.0GHz Motherboard ASUS M5A97 Memory 8GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333 Graphics Card PNY GeForce 460 GTX 1GB OC - Enthusiast Edition Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell 19" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU OCZ Fata1ty 700W Modular PSU Case ASUS Hard Drives 1TB - Primary
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13 Apr 2010
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#4 | | 7 Ultimate x64, Vista Ultimate x64, 7 Pro x64, XP Pro x86, Linux Mint Nadia Cinnamon Raleigh, NC |
Does anyone remember what 'Apple' stands for? Anyone? No? Okay...
A Arrogance
P Produces
P Profit-
L Losing
E Entity | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba A500-ST6621 OS 7 Ultimate x64, Vista Ultimate x64, 7 Pro x64, XP Pro x86, Linux Mint Nadia Cinnamon CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 2.80GHz x64 Motherboard Intel GM45 chipset Memory 8GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 Sound Card N/A Monitor(s) Displays single 16:9 widescreen (1366x768) Keyboard standard Toshiba backlit keyboard w/ numberpad Hard Drives Hitachi Travelstar 7K750 5400RPM 750GB Internet Speed N/A |
13 Apr 2010
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#5 | | Windows 8 Pro x64 with WMC Dover, AR |
I love the way that Mac people always attack Microsoft for the way they do business. If you look at the way Apple has done business since Jobs came back in 1997, they have gotten really, really shady, as well as having the quality of their products go down.
Keep it up Steve and in 5 years you can complain about having to look up at Google as well as MS. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Model #: BRMD10926 OS Windows 8 Pro x64 with WMC CPU AMD FX-4130 Quad 3.8Ghz Motherboard Asus M5A97 R2.0 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w185e Screen Resolution 1366x768 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse Onn optical mouse PSU 500W Case XION XON-180 Cooling Stock Hard Drives WD Raptor 7200 1TB Internet Speed 10Mbps DSL Other Info HP Pavilion p2-1033wb: Win7 Home Premium x64, AMD E-300 APU 1.3 Ghz dual core, 3GB DDR3, 500GB Hitachi HDD |
13 Apr 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit Covington, La |
Apple did the same thing MS did with Windows 7. Required the developers to write their Apps to interface with the OS API. This it the best way to protect the OS Kernel and not dork up a system. I believe Firefox has also put in similar restrictions on their browser add-ons. If they don't like it, write their own OS.
Jim | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit CPU Phenom II X6 1100T Motherboard ASUS M5A99X EVO Memory Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9 Graphics Card MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K120 Mouse Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad PSU Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular Case Corsair 400R Cooling Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm Hard Drives Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0 Internet Speed 15MB Antivirus Norton IS 2012, Malwarebytes Pro Browser IE-10, FF-19 Other Info APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner |
13 Apr 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit Brooklyn, NY |

Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man Apple did the same thing MS did with Windows 7. Required the developers to write their Apps to interface with the OS API. This it the best way to protect the OS Kernel and not dork up a system. I believe Firefox has also put in similar restrictions on their browser add-ons. If they don't like it, write their own OS.
Jim  It's not just the way the apps are written, it's also the way they randomly approve and deny apps, and also have the ability to delete them from people's devices remotely. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 3.0GHz Motherboard ASUS M5A97 Memory 8GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333 Graphics Card PNY GeForce 460 GTX 1GB OC - Enthusiast Edition Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell 19" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU OCZ Fata1ty 700W Modular PSU Case ASUS Hard Drives 1TB - Primary
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13 Apr 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 I love the way that Mac people always attack Microsoft for the way they do business. If you look at the way Apple has done business since Jobs came back in 1997, they have gotten really, really shady, as well as having the quality of their products go down.
Keep it up Steve and in 5 years you can complain about having to look up at Google as well as MS. Please don't attack my operating system  I can join in a discussion with the best of them, but this is just rumor and conjecture. I use Apple products and I don't attack Microsoft. I may not agree with some of their choices on a moral level but I think they're a great business. Apple might not be everyone's favorite but look at the stock since 1997.
Apple went from $23 to $242. That's a 1000% increase. Granted, MSFT is way above AAPL but Apple is catching up while micrsoft has stayed flat since 2000. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
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13 Apr 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit Brooklyn, NY |
I like Apple's products, a lot actually, (aside from the iPad) but I don't like how power-hungry Steve Jobs has become just because the products his companies designed have become popular. It doesn't give him the right to shoot down developers left and right. As stated in that open letter, many apps that contradict their policies have been allowed and kept in the store while others were removed, simply because they're so popular. Why shouldn't developers be able to use Monotouch? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 3.0GHz Motherboard ASUS M5A97 Memory 8GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333 Graphics Card PNY GeForce 460 GTX 1GB OC - Enthusiast Edition Sound Card VIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell 19" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU OCZ Fata1ty 700W Modular PSU Case ASUS Hard Drives 1TB - Primary
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13 Apr 2010
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#10 | | Windows 8 Pro x64 with WMC Dover, AR |

Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter 
Quote: Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 I love the way that Mac people always attack Microsoft for the way they do business. If you look at the way Apple has done business since Jobs came back in 1997, they have gotten really, really shady, as well as having the quality of their products go down.
Keep it up Steve and in 5 years you can complain about having to look up at Google as well as MS. Please don't attack my operating system  I can join in a discussion with the best of them, but this is just rumor and conjecture. I use Apple products and I don't attack Microsoft. I may not agree with some of their choices on a moral level but I think they're a great business. Apple might not be everyone's favorite but look at the stock since 1997. Attachment 67034
Apple went from $23 to $242. That's a 1000% increase. Granted, MSFT is way above AAPL but Apple is catching up while micrsoft has stayed flat since 2000. Oh, I agree. Even if some of the business practices are shady, they are definitely working for Apple so far. I'll give Steve Jobs credit...he's good at figuring out what people want before they know they want it. Wired wrote a pretty good article on in a couple of years ago. Wired article | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Model #: BRMD10926 OS Windows 8 Pro x64 with WMC CPU AMD FX-4130 Quad 3.8Ghz Motherboard Asus M5A97 R2.0 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit Sound Card On Board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w185e Screen Resolution 1366x768 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse Onn optical mouse PSU 500W Case XION XON-180 Cooling Stock Hard Drives WD Raptor 7200 1TB Internet Speed 10Mbps DSL Other Info HP Pavilion p2-1033wb: Win7 Home Premium x64, AMD E-300 APU 1.3 Ghz dual core, 3GB DDR3, 500GB Hitachi HDD Stop The Madness Steve Jobs! problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 AM. | |