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Windows 7: Rapidshare hand out uploader's details, house raided

27 Apr 2009   #21

Windows 7077

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
here ya go, a little light reading.
None of which require uk isps to examine and report, as was claimed.

in fact;
Data can only be obtained by a public
authority when it is necessary in a given
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27 Apr 2009   #22
Colonel Travis

Black Label 7 x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
It is because of their stupid, selfish actions that our freedoms are being removed and everyone is being spied on.
No, it's because Rapidshare says in plain English that they do not tolerate the uploading of illegal material. And they also say this in bold:

At violation of our Conditions of use, we are authorized to block your access and delete your files. If you write programs aiming to violate our Conditions of Use, you will be prosecuted and made liable for any losses occurred.
You're a moron if you use RS and don't know this.

PS - The first Napster court case was 10 years ago. Copyright battles have been fought since copyrights were invented. If you don't like that, fine. But geez - at least stop being surprised.
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27 Apr 2009   #23
Orbital Shark


But i'm sure if a site such as RS was being investigated then the authorities would have the right to see details of who is uploading to the general public. If RS was just labelled as a storage site (DropBox is a good example of this) then there wouldn't be such a robust investigation IMO....
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27 Apr 2009   #24
Orbital Shark


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
You're a moron if you use RS and don't know this.
You want to be careful who you call 'Moron' on this forum. It's just so uncalled for....
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27 Apr 2009   #25


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Orbital Shark View Post
You want to be careful who you call 'Moron' on this forum. It's just so uncalled for....
He's right though, if you are going to distribute pirate material, you should at least read the terms and conditions of the distribution medium, not to would be stupid.
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27 Apr 2009   #26
Orbital Shark


It could have been worded differently is all i'm getting at
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27 Apr 2009   #27

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64

The fact they only need to retain the information for a set period is a practical matter connected to storage requirements.

It is not relevant to Win7's question.

What details exactly can they give out though witout breaking the law themselfs??

...And then be right on to rapidshare for giving out such "private" info...
Like many, he believes his data and privacy are protected by the law - in fact the opposite is true.

The requirement is to retain the information ( albeit for a limited period at present) and to hand it over if the authorities have good reason to believe there is illegal activity.

According to the link,

At first it was unclear how the identity of the uploader was revealed, but today German news outlet Gulli said
it had found out that this was likely to be accomplished by creative use of paragraph 101 of German copyright law.
My point about RS being forced to hand it over.
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27 Apr 2009   #28
Colonel Travis

Black Label 7 x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Orbital Shark View Post
It could have been worded differently is all i'm getting at
"you" in the general sense. It wasn't directed to anyone specifically here. My apologies for any disconnect.

But, no, it could not have been worded differently. If you use RS, and the cops come knocking at your door, and you didn't know RS could prosecute you - my friend, you are a certified moron. RS does not hide the consequences.
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27 Apr 2009   #29

Windows 7 Ultimate x64.

Seems to be a bit of testosterone flying about here tonight, what have we been drinking. most of the information we are referring to when we are on about "authorities coming through the door wont be for the average user of tpb or rs but people who make money from it in big doses. Are they coming through my door because I downloaded an album? Or maybe a game? I don't think so. Now if I was selling those for massive profit then I could understand. Or if it was related to terrorism etc etc then this information can quite rightly be used.

I agree with Orbital Shark, calling unknown (even though some have declared using rs) persons morons is quite uncalled for.
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27 Apr 2009   #30

Windows 7 RTM x86/x64

Here's what I see:

Here coment right from TorrentFreak!
Rapidshare is Swiss based company!

Rapidshare is located in Switzerland and NOT in GERMANY!

The first is ‚€™small an neutral‚€™, the latter ‚€˜big and misunderstood‚€™.

Given that this simple fact is wrong, I start doubting the whole story.

Get your facts right ERNESTO! Gulli is also no news outlet but a fu‚€¶g big sausage-fest for idiots.

ok‚€¶let me summarize: they talked to a SWISS judge who then forces Rapidshare to hand over the IP. Then they have to go to a GERMAN judge who has to force the german ISP to hand over the address for that IP.

Sounds pretty complicated, given that as far as I know GERMAN law, this is not allowed."
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