Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill

Lebon14 said:

This is really bad... this is why we should stop using Oil and find another way of powering our machines...

I totally agree. And despite the efforts of a few posters to minimize the effect of oil spills by comparing them to nuclear disasters [that's comparing apples & oranges, not to mention thay aren't NEARLY as common] or dreaming that the earth "repairs itself" we still have significant amounts of oil remaining in Prince William Sound 20+ years after the Exxon Valdez spill.

I've just read about some other consequences of the Gulf spill today.

MadMaxData said:

or dreaming that the earth "repairs itself" we still have significant amounts of oil remaining in Prince William Sound 20+ years after the Exxon Valdez spill.

Reality is dreaming?


20+ years from a timescale that spans billions is not dreaming.


If I'm one of the 'dreaming' posters you are alluding to, I suggest you re-read my post.


To simplify while reiterating - The physical structure we know as planet Earth can take it - It's the lifeforms that live on the planet which cannot.

With that clarification in mind, this accident will have adverse affects to the living for a long time to come.

The physical structure we know as planet Earth can take it - It's the lifeforms that live on the planet which cannot

That is a pretty fatalistic statement. So if we are lucky, a few microbes may survive.

whs said:

That is a pretty fatalistic statement. So if we are lucky, a few microbes may survive.

We won't be lucky - the microbes will.

As for fatalistic -

That depends on whether you are a "Glass half Full, Glass half Empty or a simply acknowledge that a glass exists which contains a substance regardless of whether it's in the process of increasing or decreasing its contents" type of person.

MadMaxData said:

I believe the Biblical account of creation.

And clearly I do not.

So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.

smarteyeball said:

So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.

Hmm, I don't find ideas that disagree with mine offensive at all. No one has a lock on the right ideas. I respect differing view points and ideas whether I agree with them or not. In all probability, there is truth in both. To reject and be offended by an opposing view is pretty dogmatic in itself.

CarlTR6 said:

smarteyeball said:

So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.

Hmm, I don't find ideas that disagree with mine offensive at all. No one has a lock on the right ideas. I respect differing view points and ideas whether I agree with them or not. In all probability, there is truth in both. To reject and be offended by an opposing view is pretty dogmatic in itself.

Well, it is hard to argue in the face of beliefs because beliefs are irrational and no logic or facts will change them. So any discussion is pretty useless and will ultimately only lead to dismay.

whs said:

CarlTR6 said:

smarteyeball said:

So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.

Hmm, I don't find ideas that disagree with mine offensive at all. No one has a lock on the right ideas. I respect differing view points and ideas whether I agree with them or not. In all probability, there is truth in both. To reject and be offended by an opposing view is pretty dogmatic in itself.

Well, it is hard to argue in the face of beliefs because beliefs are irrational and no logic or facts will change them. So any discussion is pretty useless and will ultimately only lead to dismay.

I agree with you. But there is a difference between opting not to discuss beliefs - and I choose that option - and being offended by a different belief.