Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill

and being offended by a different belief.

Yeah, that is a little strange.

jimbo45 said:

Lebon14 said:

This is really bad... this is why we should stop using Oil and find another way of powering our machines...

Hi all.

Nearly EVERBODY says we should stop using Oil and there isn't a huge amount of disagreement in that-- but NOBODY has come up with any SENSIBLE and cost effective alternative yet that is even REALISABLY practical for several DECADES to come..

Well hopefully something can be done now it's opened a lot of people's eyes to how much oil does/can damage the Earth, and also how much countries depend on oil. Alternatives at the moment is electricity, but in essence all you're doing there is plugging a car in to a wall, which is connected to a coal factory, so you're just changing which hand is doing the jerking.

LPG is probably the best alternative, apart from the fact a conversion costs around £2,000, but fuel price is about 60 pence a litre, so something will needed to be done to sort out the initial conversion.

This spill has caused BP the best part of a years worth of profits, so fuel prices are going to rocket up even more.

This spill has caused BP the best part of a years worth of profits, so fuel prices are going to rocket up even more.

It is appalling that we as the consumers are ending up to foot the bill for their mistakes. Maybe we should boycott BP - that has helped a few years ago with Shell when they wanted to sink a defunct platform in the North Sea. They had to give in and properly disassemble it.

Had BP been operating the rig itself I'm 99.999999% sure this disaster wouldn't have happened.

Using a 3rd party outsourced solution shows what can happen when using a "cheaper" alternative.

That is actually a good point. But at the end it is BP that is to blame because they were cutting corners and lacked supervision in order to cut costs.

whs said:

Had BP been operating the rig itself I'm 99.999999% sure this disaster wouldn't have happened.

Using a 3rd party outsourced solution shows what can happen when using a "cheaper" alternative.

That is actually a good point. But at the end it is BP that is to blame because they were cutting corners and lacked supervision in order to cut costs.

Exactly, they are the responsible party.

whs said:

It is appalling that we as the consumers are ending up to foot the bill for their mistakes.

LOL BP is a ficticious business entity. As such pays no taxes or suffers no loss of profit. Those are mearly expenses and passed directly to the consumer in the form of higher prices and employees in the form or lower compensation.

Like all companies partcularly publicly traded ones they are either profitable which benifits employees and SHARE HOLDERS ( you and me) or they are not which means the company must restructure to be profitable.

So if not "we" the consumer on whos behalf the oil is drilled and refined, who extactly ( with money of thier own) do you think should pay? ( hint, there is not anybody else) The buck stops with you.

CarlTR6 said:

To reject and be offended by an opposing view is pretty dogmatic in itself.

It is.

I've just had it up to the eye teeth of <insert whatever belief/cause/race> automatically playing the offended card simply because of some so-called sense of moral entitlement.


I thought I'd get in first to see what it feels like for a change. Quite frankly, I did not care for the sensation.


To be honest, it's impossible to tell from the tone, but that 'offensive' remark I made wasn't entirely serious. More of a barbed tongue in cheek comment. Broadly aimed at an undefined foes.

The fact is, everybody is offended by something. But not everybody makes a song and dance about it. Those that do should not be taken seriously.


(It was remiss on my part to allow a message to be so easily misconstrued and choose an inadequate time and place to do so)