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    Song .." Born An American "


    Since it's near July 4th....Attachment 82172
    This is a patrotic song by a new artist..Phoenix Stone.
    I hope this is allowed in here.
    It's beautiful .
    Enjoy...
    http://www.phoenixstonemusic.com/
    Last edited by LADYPINKtomato1; 10 Aug 2010 at 12:13.
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       Note
    This isn't intended to be offensive, diminish/negate current troops etc, nor intended to be anything close to a political debate. If taken as offensive - apologies in advance


    It's merely a question based upon observations from afar.


    Geopolitical/cultural gap and reason's for occupation aside, what is the fundamental difference between a Vietnam Vet and an Iraq/Afghan vet?


    Both wars sent brave young people to foreign lands to face horrors civilians will never understand. Both have a high attrition rate - be it mental, physical or life itself.


    Yet the former were treated with utter contempt, the latter are lauded as heroes. Yet, essentially the are doing the same job - which is protecting US interests.


    Again no offence intended for the 'elephant in the room' question because I am truly curious - but is the 'over the top' support for current serving troops a way to compensate for former attitudes and behaviour and as such, perhaps one aspect intended to avoid making the same mistake twice?

    Or is it simply because a 'troop friendly' media and populous attitude makes up for the shortfall that conscription once filled?
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    I like the song and artist.

    My brother was seriously injured in Nam.. took 7 major surgeries to put him back together again.. We are very blessed to have him well and working full time now.
    I'm greatful for each man and woman who is away serving so that I can live freely in the USA..
    Freedom isn't free..it comes with a huge price tag.. some their very lives.
    Thanks to all who serve... God Bless the USA!!!
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    LADYPINKtomato1 said:

    My brother was seriously injured in Nam.. took 7 major surgeries to put him back together again.. We are very blessed to have him well and working full time now.
    It's good to hear he made it through. However that would make you exempt from the original question since you'd be personally 'biased' :)

    I'm greatful for each man and woman who is away serving so that I can live freely in the USA..
    Just one small point of conjecture - the USA isn't the only country affected by this current 'situation'.

    As for freedom... well...

    Freedom isn't free..it comes with a huge price tag.. some their very lives.
    Nothing is free, nor ever will be. And unfortunately that particular price has been paid since our species learnt to walk upright. It's also a price that will continue to be paid by our species as long as we exist

    God Bless the USA!!![/B]
    I'm not touching that...

    Sorry, no - I have to :

    If that is 'Gods' 'blessing' - I'd hate to see his curse...

    And 'God' is not beholden to any individual country - He either 'blesses us all' or 'bless no-one' , regardless of his varying bestowed titles
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    smarteyeball said:
    LADYPINKtomato1 said:

    My brother was seriously injured in Nam.. took 7 major surgeries to put him back together again.. We are very blessed to have him well and working full time now.
    It's good to hear he made it through. However that would make you exempt from the original question since you'd be personally 'biased' :)

    I'm greatful for each man and woman who is away serving so that I can live freely in the USA..
    Just one small point of conjecture - the USA isn't the only country affected by this current 'situation'.

    As for freedom... well...

    Freedom isn't free..it comes with a huge price tag.. some their very lives.
    Nothing is free, nor ever will be. And unfortunately that particular price has been paid since our species learnt to walk upright. It's also a price that will continue to be paid by our species as long as we exist

    God Bless the USA!!![/B]
    I'm not touching that...

    Sorry, no - I have to :

    If that is 'Gods' 'blessing' - I'd hate to see his curse...

    And 'God' is not beholden to any individual country - He either 'blesses us all' or 'bless no-one' , regardless of his varying bestowed titles

    I would like to voice my support for all the points that you have raised & commented on above.

    Differences of opinions are healthy in a democratic society as is respect for others views.


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    lol

    sigh...


    We're not as ignorant and self centered as we sound...
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  7. Posts : 4,549
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    A great discussion is healthy.. NOPE I'm not biased...I just loved the thoughts in the message I posted.. thinking it was fitting since July 4th isn't far away.My family have been in quite a few wars.. all in the name of freedom... not always the USA .. quite often to help the underdog.. gain freedom..
    not the democratic kind we enjoy... but their kind of a democratic society that fits.. their needs.

    You didn't offend me in the least.. :)
    YES .. the God I know.... has been most gracious to the USA.
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    LADYPINKtomato1 said:
    A great discussion is healthy.. NOPE I'm not biased...I just loved the thoughts in the message I posted.. thinking it was fitting since July 4th isn't far away.My family have been in quite a few wars.. all in the name of freedom... not always the USA .. quite often to help the underdog.. gain freedom..
    not the democratic kind we enjoy... but their kind of a democratic society that fits.. their needs.

    You didn't offend me in the least.. :)
    YES .. the God I know.... has been most gracious to the USA.
    I saved this one for you my LPT!
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    Every little boy needs a puppy!
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    Geopolitical/cultural gap and reason's for occupation aside, what is the fundamental difference between a Vietnam Vet and an Iraq/Afghan vet?
    Let me extend that before I answer it. Let's include Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Granada, Panama, Falkland Islands, Korea, Atlantic theater, Pacific theater in WWII and WWI vets. What is the fundamental difference? Absolutely nothing. Each vet in any of those conflicts gave the government a blank check, payable in any amount to include his or her life. This includes Brits, Aussies, New Zealanders, Poles, French, Finns, and many, many others. They followed orders and went to war because civilian politicians failed. The vets did not start the conflicts; but they were expected to clean up the messes.

    All gave some and some gave all. And collectively they gave me the opportunities and the freedom that I enjoy today.

    There is no fundamental difference in vets anywhere.

    All gave some and some gave all.
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  10. Posts : 4,549
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    Carl... here... here.. you have expressed my feelings perfectly .Attachment 82427
    I couldn't have said it any better.. thank you!!!!
    Last edited by LADYPINKtomato1; 10 Aug 2010 at 12:13.
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