No, I just tried your suggestion and it still does not work. Thanks though. I think there is something wrong with my user id. On perhaps related issues, I can no longer "try-on" firefox personas, some of my icons on my desktop are now grayed out, (although they still work,) and when I go into my windows live mail, a RSS feed pop-up shows up before it loads new emails. I also, could not work rhapsody. Rhapsody tech support had to set up a whole new user i.d. for it to work (after literally 2 hours on the phone with them.) I had just got my computer back from the shop. they removed a virus and updated everything. Can't help but think it had something to do with some of the updates not being compatible? surely all these problems must have something in common....