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Windows 7: AERO themes causes severe lag in the web browsers.

21 Sep 2014   #41
gregrocker

 

One other thing: I see this is being referred to our piracy expert who will not be fooled by any obfuscation and finds questionable points in your mgadiag file.

If after the reinstall another mgadiag confirms piracy we will be unable to help further and you'll be subject to permanent ban. So you should install only the OS you have a known-good license for. There is zero tolerance for piracy here so we will be unable to help further without a clean mgadiag as soon as reinstalled.


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21 Sep 2014   #42
DARKWORLD

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
The test doesn't eliminate hardware as the cause and in fact points somewhat to the second GPU. Can you try a disk to see if you can truly rule out the hardware?
What do you mean by "try a disk"? Sorry I didnt get it.

Slartybart, gregrocker
So what's wrong with those reports? Are you saying that this copy or key is pirate one? Or they potentially sold me a pirated windows? Why I can activate it then?

I just need to know, so I can call in that shop where I purchased windows or contact microsoft support about it if that's so serious.

essenbe
Okay, here goes:


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21 Sep 2014   #43
gregrocker

 

Disk, not flash stick, to see if Peppermint boots and runs doing everything normally with either or both GPUs. You said it wouldn't boot with one. This does not absolve the hardware which is the point of the test.

I've asked you twice now why two GPUs.

Please pics of the win7 disk and COA sticker with Product Keys masked. The sticker normally is how one knows its Genuine.
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21 Sep 2014   #44
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Please tell us where you bought the Windows 7 Ultimate OEM product key from?
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21 Sep 2014   #45
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DARKWORLD View Post
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Slartybart, gregrocker
So what's wrong with those reports? Are you saying that this copy or key is pirate one? Or they potentially sold me a pirated windows? Why I can activate it then?

I just need to know, so I can call in that shop where I purchased windows or contact microsoft support about it if that's so serious.
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The MGA reports have oddities in them that make it difficult to say if the install is genuine or counterfeit.

Sometimes shops "do you a favor" and 'upgrade' your OS license. I'm not sure what the shop will do, it's up to you if you want to call them and explain that Win 7 installs and activates, but the genuine advantage utility raises some concerns. They might give you another key - but ... would it be another suspect key? Win7 Ultimate is expensive and not as common as Home or Pro - if the shop is handing out these keys like candy, then you should ask hard questions.

Did you buy the machine and Win7 from the same shop?

What I'd like to do is move beyond the current state of things and try to get your system nice and neat.

Your objective is to have a Windows 7 machine that doesn't lag with an Aero theme.

Each path has some roadblocks.

The Windows 7 key is suspect.

The Windows 8 Pro might not be covered by the OEM downgrade rights. You'll have to call Lenovo and ask them. Explain that the machine came preinstalled with Win8 Home and that you later purchased Retail Win8 Pro and you would like to downgrade to Windows 7 Pro. I don't know what they will tell you, but they are the only ones who can give you the downgrade information (key).

Here's what I suggest until anything more is known

Backup you personal data

Reset you BIOS to defaults

Install the Retail Win8 Pro as the only OS on the machine - NOT on a separate disk or drive.

Update Win8 until there is nothing more offered.

Use Windows Updates to install hardware drivers - listed in the optional offerings.

Update to 8.1 update 1 - you'll have to go to the MS store for this.

The MGA report is not very useful on Win8 machines, so don't worry about that

Check your hardware drivers against the Lenovo support page
- DO NOt update drivers from other vendors (NVidia, Realtek, Intel, etc) at this point.
- Get the drivers from Windows Update or Lenovo

That gives you a very good base... it also changes the troubleshooting - but you need a solid base.

Bill
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21 Sep 2014   #46
gregrocker

 

Did WIndows 8 Pro come with the PC? I thought you said before it came with Home. It should have the OS which came with the PC reinstalled to auto-activate.
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21 Sep 2014   #47
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Did WIndows 8 Pro come with the PC? I thought you said before it came with Home. It should have the OS which came with the PC reinstalled to auto-activate.
Sorry Greg, I might have confused things.

The machine had Win8 home pre-installed

Darkworld purchased Win8 Pro afterwards
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22 Sep 2014   #48
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Disk, not flash stick, to see if Peppermint boots and runs doing everything normally with either or both GPUs. You said it wouldn't boot with one. This does not absolve the hardware which is the point of the test.

I've asked you twice now why two GPUs.

Please pics of the win7 disk and COA sticker with Product Keys masked. The sticker normally is how one knows its Genuine.
Greg the two GPU's mate you can "tie" them together if they are the same model - I stand to be corrected though.

See this How to trick out your gaming PC with multiple graphics cards | PCWorld
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22 Sep 2014   #49
gregrocker

 

And it would therefore be the first suspect, especially when it won't even boot Peppermint without one GPU disabled.

Need to use the specified boot disk to make sure that's not a flash stick anomaly.
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22 Sep 2014   #50
DARKWORLD

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Slartybart
Unfortunately I have a ton of work this week, gonna travel a lot, so wont be able reinstall anything until weekend or something.

Gonna call into that shop and ask about their windows copies/keys, and Lenovo for the downgrade options as you suggested.
And in Windows 8 I have some compatibility issues so that's just switches problems... Although this way at least I will be able to tell if those lags are gone or not.

Now I am totally depressed, my windows is shit, laptop is faulty and there're no solutions... Just plain amazing.

gregrocker
Its called SLI (double video cards), enhances video performance by about 30-40% in most cases.
But eventhough it wont boot Peppermint, lag in windows continues even with this card ejected...
Also Peppermint might not be compatible with SLI setups.
I got to buy an external DVD drive to test it with disk though.
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