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Windows 7 - Tweak for Start Menu's "All Programs"? |
11-04-2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail |
Tweak for Start Menu's "All Programs"? Is there a tweak that anyone knows that can make the All Programs in the start menu expand like it did with XP?
I don't know why MS made it the way they did without giving an option to expand it if we wanted to. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 400 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail CPU Intel Pentium D 930 - 3.00GHz - Socket 775 LGA - 65 nm Motherboard Dell (0YC523) - Cset: i945P/PL/G/GZ - Sbridge: 82801G (ICH7) Memory 4GB Corsair PC-6400 (400 MHz) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9500 GT Sound Card SB Audigy SE Monitor(s) Displays Dual Dell 24" 2408WFP (Digital) Using DV-I Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard Memorex Multi-Function Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 PSU 375 Watts Case Dell XPS OEM Case Cooling Regular Fans Hard Drives Samsung - 1 x 250GB, 2 x 500GB (EcoDrives) & Seagate Barracuda - 1 X 400GB, 2 x 500GB, 1 x 1TB Internet Speed 21MBps Down & 2.70MBps Up Other Info http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps400/sm/specs.htm#wp1053343
Chipset: Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
Memory Controller: 82945G/GZ
I/O Controller: Intel(R) 82801GH I/O controller hub (ICH7DH) SATA Controller found in AHCI mode |
11-05-2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit |
You know, when vista came out, i really hated how it doesnt expand anymore. I think it is personal preferance on that because some people actually like the space it saves. But myself, i like the xp way too..
If that makes any sense.
But, not sure if there's a tweak or not. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit CPU Amd Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.2Ghz Motherboard Asus Random Memory 4GB Graphics Card Nvidea GeForce GTX 275 Sound Card Integrated :( Monitor(s) Displays 22" Samsung LCD SyncMaster T220 PSU 600W Case Random Cooling Random Hard Drives 640GB |
11-05-2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail |
Look what I found and now I have XP style program menu.  This will work for Vista too. 1. Open regedit and go to following keys: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders 2. Now you'll need to change the value of Favorites string value: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs 3. That's it. Log off or restart your system and now "Favorites" link in start menu will change to "Programs" and will show all program shortcuts installed in your system just like XP start menu does. NOTE: If you can't see the new menu in start menu, you'll need to enable "Favorites Menu" from Taskbar Properties -> Start Menu -> Customize. 4. You can also disable the All Programs button in start menu. Open regedit and goto: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer In right-side pane, create a new DWORD value NoStartMenuMorePrograms and set its value to 1 
Quote: Originally Posted by apdunshiz You know, when vista came out, i really hated how it doesnt expand anymore. I think it is personal preferance on that because some people actually like the space it saves. But myself, i like the xp way too..
If that makes any sense.
But, not sure if there's a tweak or not.
Last edited by Vendetta; 11-06-2009 at 03:25 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 400 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail CPU Intel Pentium D 930 - 3.00GHz - Socket 775 LGA - 65 nm Motherboard Dell (0YC523) - Cset: i945P/PL/G/GZ - Sbridge: 82801G (ICH7) Memory 4GB Corsair PC-6400 (400 MHz) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9500 GT Sound Card SB Audigy SE Monitor(s) Displays Dual Dell 24" 2408WFP (Digital) Using DV-I Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard Memorex Multi-Function Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 PSU 375 Watts Case Dell XPS OEM Case Cooling Regular Fans Hard Drives Samsung - 1 x 250GB, 2 x 500GB (EcoDrives) & Seagate Barracuda - 1 X 400GB, 2 x 500GB, 1 x 1TB Internet Speed 21MBps Down & 2.70MBps Up Other Info http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps400/sm/specs.htm#wp1053343
Chipset: Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
Memory Controller: 82945G/GZ
I/O Controller: Intel(R) 82801GH I/O controller hub (ICH7DH) SATA Controller found in AHCI mode |
11-06-2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail |
I found out something about this tweak and found a better way to do things, so you don't lose your favorites in IE8.
When you go to Customize in Taskbar and Start menu Properties, check "Videos" to display when you click on the start menu then change that in regedit rather than favorites. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 400 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail CPU Intel Pentium D 930 - 3.00GHz - Socket 775 LGA - 65 nm Motherboard Dell (0YC523) - Cset: i945P/PL/G/GZ - Sbridge: 82801G (ICH7) Memory 4GB Corsair PC-6400 (400 MHz) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9500 GT Sound Card SB Audigy SE Monitor(s) Displays Dual Dell 24" 2408WFP (Digital) Using DV-I Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard Memorex Multi-Function Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 PSU 375 Watts Case Dell XPS OEM Case Cooling Regular Fans Hard Drives Samsung - 1 x 250GB, 2 x 500GB (EcoDrives) & Seagate Barracuda - 1 X 400GB, 2 x 500GB, 1 x 1TB Internet Speed 21MBps Down & 2.70MBps Up Other Info http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps400/sm/specs.htm#wp1053343
Chipset: Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
Memory Controller: 82945G/GZ
I/O Controller: Intel(R) 82801GH I/O controller hub (ICH7DH) SATA Controller found in AHCI mode |
11-13-2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 x64 SP1 - Ubuntu 10.10 x64 - Linux Mint 10 (dual boot + Virtual Box) |
Vendetta: NICE tip man!, just did it on 7x64, works ok. I don't mind losing favorites, I'm a firefox man so favorites are of no use for me.
Now if ONLY I could cascade folders like you could do on vista classic start menu, for example: I used to put on top of vista classic menu three of my most used work docs folders, created a shortcut to them, and they cascaded contents beautifully...
What I'm missing also is the xp and vista feature that let you put toolbars on the sides or top of the window, just dragging the folder with the shortcuts in it .... pitty | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe OS Windows 7 x64 SP1 - Ubuntu 10.10 x64 - Linux Mint 10 (dual boot + Virtual Box) CPU AMD Phenom II 945 Motherboard ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Memory Kingston DDR2 800 6GB Graphics Card NVidia GForce 8600GT Sound Card OnBoard SoundMax Integrated HD Monitor(s) Displays LCD Samsung SyncMaster 2033 Screen Resolution 1600*900 PSU 650 Hard Drives 1.0 TB RAID 0 + 2 internal sata 320 GB + external e-sata 500 Gb Internet Speed cable 3mb |
11-13-2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail |
No problem, hopefully MS will release an update that will allow for some classic stuff to be returned, but at the same time I can understand why they are pushing everyone to adapt to the newer stuff. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 400 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail CPU Intel Pentium D 930 - 3.00GHz - Socket 775 LGA - 65 nm Motherboard Dell (0YC523) - Cset: i945P/PL/G/GZ - Sbridge: 82801G (ICH7) Memory 4GB Corsair PC-6400 (400 MHz) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9500 GT Sound Card SB Audigy SE Monitor(s) Displays Dual Dell 24" 2408WFP (Digital) Using DV-I Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard Memorex Multi-Function Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 PSU 375 Watts Case Dell XPS OEM Case Cooling Regular Fans Hard Drives Samsung - 1 x 250GB, 2 x 500GB (EcoDrives) & Seagate Barracuda - 1 X 400GB, 2 x 500GB, 1 x 1TB Internet Speed 21MBps Down & 2.70MBps Up Other Info http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps400/sm/specs.htm#wp1053343
Chipset: Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
Memory Controller: 82945G/GZ
I/O Controller: Intel(R) 82801GH I/O controller hub (ICH7DH) SATA Controller found in AHCI mode |
11-13-2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 x64 SP1 - Ubuntu 10.10 x64 - Linux Mint 10 (dual boot + Virtual Box) |

Quote: Originally Posted by Vendetta No problem, hopefully MS will release an update that will allow for some classic stuff to be returned, but at the same time I can understand why they are pushing everyone to adapt to the newer stuff.  Yep I can understand also, new stuff is usefull, in fact, I use it, but for some pc's and for some tasks you cant beat classic menu (the proper one, not the "replacements" that are merely a shadow) and the screen bars, and the cascading folders.
MS should leave BOTH alternatives on, new menu (easier to use than classic on a touch screen for example) and classic with the ability to cascade docs folders on it.
Maybe leave the classic stuff off by default, so that the power users can turn it on if they want.
For me the BEST combination would be new with the possibility to cascade folders on the top (in the "pinned" area) plus lateral and top screen "classic" auto hidding toolbars. Microsoft, are you listening? On Ubuntu or Linux Mint you can do that 
In fact on Mint (an ubuntu spin off) I use the "new" menu, AND I add ubuntu's "classic" to the taskbar, so I get BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY (you don't have to chose one or other) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe OS Windows 7 x64 SP1 - Ubuntu 10.10 x64 - Linux Mint 10 (dual boot + Virtual Box) CPU AMD Phenom II 945 Motherboard ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Memory Kingston DDR2 800 6GB Graphics Card NVidia GForce 8600GT Sound Card OnBoard SoundMax Integrated HD Monitor(s) Displays LCD Samsung SyncMaster 2033 Screen Resolution 1600*900 PSU 650 Hard Drives 1.0 TB RAID 0 + 2 internal sata 320 GB + external e-sata 500 Gb Internet Speed cable 3mb |
11-13-2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail |
People love to have options, I know I do, so MS needs to bring some oldies, but goodies back. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 400 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32Bit - Retail CPU Intel Pentium D 930 - 3.00GHz - Socket 775 LGA - 65 nm Motherboard Dell (0YC523) - Cset: i945P/PL/G/GZ - Sbridge: 82801G (ICH7) Memory 4GB Corsair PC-6400 (400 MHz) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9500 GT Sound Card SB Audigy SE Monitor(s) Displays Dual Dell 24" 2408WFP (Digital) Using DV-I Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard Memorex Multi-Function Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 PSU 375 Watts Case Dell XPS OEM Case Cooling Regular Fans Hard Drives Samsung - 1 x 250GB, 2 x 500GB (EcoDrives) & Seagate Barracuda - 1 X 400GB, 2 x 500GB, 1 x 1TB Internet Speed 21MBps Down & 2.70MBps Up Other Info http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps400/sm/specs.htm#wp1053343
Chipset: Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
Memory Controller: 82945G/GZ
I/O Controller: Intel(R) 82801GH I/O controller hub (ICH7DH) SATA Controller found in AHCI mode |
11-02-2010
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#9 | | |
I have used this solution to change the all programs and it functions as it should. However, this only uses the global start menu and not the individual user start menu entries.
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs (GLOBAL)
%USERPROFILE%\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs (USER)
If I set the User Shell Folders to the User link I am missing the global ones and vice versa. Is there anyway to correct this issue.
I am assuming I could just copy and paste everything into the global folder, but would this cause problems for when I install new programs and then they only install the links in the user folder. I appreciate any help as I would really like to use this tweak.
Thanks,
Don UPDATED: Forgot to add that I am the only user account on this computer and that will always be the case. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
11-02-2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home 64, Vista Ultimate 64 |
You can try Classic Shell - Welcome to Classic Shell
One of its features is to create expandable All Programs menu. It is also skinnable.
Look at the Gallery section for screenshots: Classic Shell: Gallery | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me :) I build all my PCs OS Windows 7 Home 64, Vista Ultimate 64 Tweak for Start Menu's "All Programs"? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:18 AM. |  |