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Windows 7 - Making backspace going 'up' instead of 'back' |
03-17-2010
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Making backspace going 'up' instead of 'back' Hello there.
So I made my homework and googled about the issue, responses went from installing 3rd party apps to start using Alt+up combo to achieve the same result.
I'm friends with my processor you know? I like it to work for me, so the option to install 3rd party apps can't be considered.
And I read about the breadcrumbs in the location bar but theres the issue that I find way faster to use the keyboard than to use the mouse.
So, question: does anyone know about a way (registry hack, MS patch, etc) to make this key work like in XP?
Thanks in advance =)
Last edited by BadDayComing; 03-17-2010 at 06:38 PM..
Reason: title correction
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number White box OS Windows 7Pro - 64bits CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3.4Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H Memory 16GB Corsair / 4x CMV4GX3M1A1333C9 Graphics Card ASUS EAH5770 CuCore / 1GB Sound Card Integrated Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP L1706 Screen Resolution 1280*1024*32 Keyboard HP SK2880 Mouse Genius NetScroll 120 PSU Cooler Master RS-600-PCAR Case Cooler Master Elite 430 Cooling Vigor Monsoon III LT Hard Drives 2x 320GB Western Digital WD3200AVJS / Raid 0 Internet Speed Recently upgraded to 5Mbps =] Other Info It has a bunch of blue-led fans =D |
03-17-2010
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You are going to be disappointed. Might as well get used to ALT + UP ARROW or the breadcrumbs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron e1705 OS Windows 7 (7600) x86 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (2 GHz) Motherboard Unknown Dell MB Memory 2 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 (128 MB Dedicated) Sound Card SigmaTel HD Audio; Turtle Beach Audio Advantage SRM Monitor(s) Displays Laptop 17" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
03-17-2010
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Awww, tell me your lying >.<
Actually the Alt+up option is not bad at all, considering that the other option involves the mouse.
However I find faster to spam backspace rather than a combo =/ | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number White box OS Windows 7Pro - 64bits CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3.4Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H Memory 16GB Corsair / 4x CMV4GX3M1A1333C9 Graphics Card ASUS EAH5770 CuCore / 1GB Sound Card Integrated Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP L1706 Screen Resolution 1280*1024*32 Keyboard HP SK2880 Mouse Genius NetScroll 120 PSU Cooler Master RS-600-PCAR Case Cooler Master Elite 430 Cooling Vigor Monsoon III LT Hard Drives 2x 320GB Western Digital WD3200AVJS / Raid 0 Internet Speed Recently upgraded to 5Mbps =] Other Info It has a bunch of blue-led fans =D |
03-18-2010
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Thanks for your reply.
Problem is not about the size of the script but the memory footprint of AHK and the CPU cicles required to run it.
We can't be solving each windows annoyance with 3rd party software, our machines would be crawling then = (
Last edited by BadDayComing; 03-18-2010 at 12:37 AM..
Reason: spelling as usual
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number White box OS Windows 7Pro - 64bits CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3.4Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H Memory 16GB Corsair / 4x CMV4GX3M1A1333C9 Graphics Card ASUS EAH5770 CuCore / 1GB Sound Card Integrated Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP L1706 Screen Resolution 1280*1024*32 Keyboard HP SK2880 Mouse Genius NetScroll 120 PSU Cooler Master RS-600-PCAR Case Cooler Master Elite 430 Cooling Vigor Monsoon III LT Hard Drives 2x 320GB Western Digital WD3200AVJS / Raid 0 Internet Speed Recently upgraded to 5Mbps =] Other Info It has a bunch of blue-led fans =D |
03-18-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by BadDayComing Problem is not about the size of the script but the memory footprint of AHK and the CPU cicles required to run it. I script all of my programs in AHK, and my transparency script, which has a pretty decent GUI and handles transparency + hot areas, I barely notice on my laptop, which is 512MB, 1.6Ghz processor. AHK will have no trouble at all running on your system, and the footprint will be very low for a script this simple.
Trust me... I've been at this for a while. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU Pentium 4 HT 3.2Ghz (@3.8Ghz) Motherboard Biostar P4M800CE-8237 Memory 2x 1GB DDR 200Mhz (3-3-3-8) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1650 Pro 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy Monitor(s) Displays Acer S231HL Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft wireless keyboard 800 Mouse Microsoft wireless mouse 1000 PSU 650 watt Cooling 2x 80mm fan, 2x 140mm fan Hard Drives 120GB 7200RPM WD
55GB 5400RPM WD
Most of the storage is delegated to a file server. Internet Speed 25Mbps download, 4Mbps upload Other Info My average idle for the Pentium 4 is 20c, praise to Type 44 Heatsink Compound. |
03-18-2010
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Breadcrumbs aren't for me, too much reading required before an accurate mouse click becomes an option. My side mouse switch is programmed to simulate ALT+UP, and I've added Classic Shell to get an up arrow button. Haven't noticed any slowdowns. | My System Specs | | |
03-19-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Prisoner 
Quote: Originally Posted by BadDayComing Problem is not about the size of the script but the memory footprint of AHK and the CPU cicles required to run it. I script all of my programs in AHK, and my transparency script, which has a pretty decent GUI and handles transparency + hot areas, I barely notice on my laptop, which is 512MB, 1.6Ghz processor. AHK will have no trouble at all running on your system, and the footprint will be very low for a script this simple.
Trust me... I've been at this for a while. I have used AHK myself and it's pretty impressive, however the thing here is about running a program all the time just to have that tiny bit of functionality back, which i think is a waste of cpu cycles.
There should be a way at this point since most people complain about that. 
Quote: Originally Posted by sbrads Breadcrumbs aren't for me, too much reading required before an accurate mouse click becomes an option. My side mouse switch is programmed to simulate ALT+UP, and I've added Classic Shell to get an up arrow button. Haven't noticed any slowdowns. Didn't think about the classic shell before o.o EDIT:
Theres an option to put an up button back on explorer. It doesnt make backspace work as it should though.
Last edited by BadDayComing; 03-19-2010 at 01:45 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number White box OS Windows 7Pro - 64bits CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3.4Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H Memory 16GB Corsair / 4x CMV4GX3M1A1333C9 Graphics Card ASUS EAH5770 CuCore / 1GB Sound Card Integrated Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP L1706 Screen Resolution 1280*1024*32 Keyboard HP SK2880 Mouse Genius NetScroll 120 PSU Cooler Master RS-600-PCAR Case Cooler Master Elite 430 Cooling Vigor Monsoon III LT Hard Drives 2x 320GB Western Digital WD3200AVJS / Raid 0 Internet Speed Recently upgraded to 5Mbps =] Other Info It has a bunch of blue-led fans =D |
03-19-2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home 64, Vista Ultimate 64 |
The accelerator for ALt+Up comes from the explorerframe.dll.mui file. Here's what Resource Hacker shows for accelerator "256":
... VK_UP, 40994, NOINVERT, ALT, VIRTKEY VK_BACK, 41010, NOINVERT, VIRTKEY ... I bet if you replace the second number 41010 with the first number 40994 then Backspace will do the same as Alt+Up. Few things to keep in mind: - there are multiple versions of the file, one for each language. For English the file is in Windows\System32\en-US. Make sure you are editing the right file - on 64-bit systems there are 2 files per language - one for 32 bits and one for 64 bits. You may have to edit both - the file is currently in use by Explorer. So it will be tricky to update. This might work: rename the file to something else, make a copy, rename the copy to the original name, then edit the copy - make sure you don't do Save As in Resource Hacker, because that has been known to save 64-bit files as 32-bit. just do Save. - I haven't tried any of these, so proceed carefully | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me :) I build all my PCs OS Windows 7 Home 64, Vista Ultimate 64 |
03-19-2010
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Best way to replace files that are in use by Explorer:
1. Find the file, make a copy, make a second, and edit either one. Do not edit the other. Save both to the desktop, and rename one you did not edit to "explorerframe.dllbackup".
2. Make sure you don't need any of the explorer windows that are open.
3. Open Task Manager. Go to the Processes tab and task kill Explorer.exe.
Go to the Applications tab, and click "New Task". Navigate to the desktop.
4. Copy the file that you edited to the folder that the original file is at. Go through the motions to copy files, and it will copy.
5. If it copied, click Cancel and click the "New Task" button again, and type "explorer.exe"
That's always worked for me. Beware, editing system files, no matter if you make backups, can permanently damage your system... And half of the time, you can't fix it. It's happened to me. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit CPU Pentium 4 HT 3.2Ghz (@3.8Ghz) Motherboard Biostar P4M800CE-8237 Memory 2x 1GB DDR 200Mhz (3-3-3-8) Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1650 Pro 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy Monitor(s) Displays Acer S231HL Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft wireless keyboard 800 Mouse Microsoft wireless mouse 1000 PSU 650 watt Cooling 2x 80mm fan, 2x 140mm fan Hard Drives 120GB 7200RPM WD
55GB 5400RPM WD
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