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Windows 7: Authentec Drivers

15 Jul 2010   #131
dbsimms63

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

So if I don't have a TPM, then what else might be conflicting?


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15 Jul 2010   #132
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

64-bit windows (Vista and Win7) have some extra security measures added to them, including KPP (also known as PatchGuard) and ALSR. I suspect that without the TPM, the drivers cannot verify login. Once you're logged in, it works fine, but during the initial login, it won't work.
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15 Jul 2010   #133
dbsimms63

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PhreePhly View Post
64-bit windows (Vista and Win7) have some extra security measures added to them, including KPP (also known as PatchGuard) and ALSR. I suspect that without the TPM, the drivers cannot verify login. Once you're logged in, it works fine, but during the initial login, it won't work.
That is exactly what happens, so why does it still work with Vista 32 and let me log into windows? Maybe that is why Asus shipped this thing with Vista 32 and not 64.
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15 Jul 2010   #134
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Windows x32 does not have these additional security measures.
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15 Jul 2010   #135
dbsimms63

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Anyway around it without TPM? Can TPM be added after the fact?
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15 Jul 2010   #136
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

The TPM is a physical chip soldered to the mainboard. They are, in fact, designed not to be easily replacable. The point of them is to hold cryptographic keys specific to the system they are installed in. It would defeat the purpose to be able to easily swap them out.
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15 Jul 2010   #137
dbsimms63

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Any way to bypass the W7 64 added security features that aren't in the 32 bit version?
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15 Jul 2010   #138
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

None that I know of. These are kernel level operations that would require rather extensive hacking abilities.

I now understand MS's incompatible statement now. I think they should have put an asterix and noted that it only works with a TPM.
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16 Jul 2010   #139
dbsimms63

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

No, no TPM on my notebook. Looks like the question has been answered. But as you can see, Asus advertised my notebook as coming with a TPM, even supplied their retailers with the same information. Do you think I can make them add it to my laptop?


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16 Jul 2010   #140
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

I downloaded the M70vm manual and it actually states that the TPM comes in selected models. You need check and see if you actually bought one of those models. No, they can't add the TPM after the fact. It is soldered onto the motherboard.

Also, did you go into the BIOS and make sure it is turned on?
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