Windows 7: Extended display identification data (EDID) help...

Alex1986 · 27 Jul 2009

Hello this is my first post

i been using Windows 7 from december 2008 im very happy with it my current Windows 7 is RC 7100 x64 with catalyst 9.7 everything is great except one thing...

In XP i could set any resolution i wanted even not supported one and Windows 7 has some kinda blockade that i cant pass...i try Power Strip dident work...

I read about EDID but im kinda scared to touch this stuff...

So i give some details my monitor is Hyundai N220WA max native resolution 1680x1050 @60Hz and Radeon 3870

I want too set resolution 1920x1080 not much difreance right still i cant in catalyst control i can pick it but windows dont let it change...

Where can i change this in windows so i will be able to have 1920x1080? its only bigger by fev pixels so should be no problem right?

Thanks for help in advance...also im newb in this thing so if some one would be kinda to take my hand and teach me step by step i dont wana burn my monitor after all

mikinho · 27 Jul 2009

Install the latest Catalyst Software. There was a bug fixed in 9.4 that should do the trick.

Quote:

Resolved Issues for the Windows 7 Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows 7.
These include:
• City of Villains: Display now redraws correctly after changing graphics settings
• Catalyst Control Center: 1080i@30hz and 1080i@25hz Component Video modes
can now be applied via Component Video - Advanced aspect
• Custom formats modes can now be applied properly and will be available under "List All Modes"
• Display profiles will now be restored when displays are swapped while the system
sleeps
• WinDVD9 HD playback doesn't cause the desktop to jitter or flicker anymore
• Device Manager no longer displays error during express driver uninstall

I misread, for some reason I read you were on 9.2, not 9.7

When you create your custom resolution in ATI did you set it using Windows 7 Screen Resolution? You should find it under Advanced - List All Modes

Alex1986 · 27 Jul 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by mikinho

Install the latest Catalyst Software. There was a bug fixed in 9.4 that should do the trick.

I said i got Catalyst 9.7 installed

Any way some more info...

Code:

Monitor
  Model name............... N220W D-sub
  Manufacturer............. Hitachi
  Plug and Play ID......... HIT60FF
  Serial number............ 0WAP0B7503531
  Manufacture date......... 2007, ISO week 21
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Analog 0.700,0.300 (1.0V p-p)
  Sync input support....... Separate
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 470 x 300 mm (22,0 in)
  Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
  Extension blocs.......... None
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported
Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,644 - Ry 0,333
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,286 - Gy 0,603
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,152 - By 0,079
  White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
  Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 31-80kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 56-76Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1680x1050p at 60Hz (16:10)
    Modeline............... "1680x1050" 146,250 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  72Hz - VESA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  72Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1680 x 1050p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x  900p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x  900p at  75Hz - VESA STD
Report information
  Date generated........... 2009-07-27
  Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
  Operating system......... 6.1.7100.2
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Code:

Monitor
  Model name............... ABC 302008WS
  Manufacturer............. ABC
  Plug and Play ID......... ABC8014
  Serial number............ DP19052887ET
  Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 10
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.4
  Input signal type........ Digital (DisplayPort)
  Color bit depth.......... 8 bits per primary color
  Color encoding formats... RGB 4:4:4
  Screen size.............. 650 x 410 mm (30,3 in)
  Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... n/a
Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,678 - Ry 0,309
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,198 - Gy 0,698
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,146 - By 0,060
  White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
  Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 29-113kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 49-86Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 280MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 2560x1600p at 60Hz (16:10)
    Modeline............... "2560x1600" 268,000 2560 2608 2640 2720 1600 1603 1609 1646 +hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1920 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1920 x 1440p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1152 x  864p at  75Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x  800p at  60Hz - VESA STD
EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  DTV underscan............ Supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 5
  Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #3....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "720x480" 27,000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #4....... 1440x480i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1440x480" 27,000 1440 1478 1602 1716 480 488 494 524 interlace -hsync -vsync
  Detailed timing #5....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148,500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
CE video data (timings supported)
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
Report information
  Date generated........... 2009-07-27
  Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
  Operating system......... 6.1.7100.2
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Code:

Monitor
  Model name............... ABC 24WDD08
  Manufacturer............. ABC
  Plug and Play ID......... ABC0D1D
  Serial number (numeric).. 1170355343
  Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 26
  PID revision............. 0
  -------------------------
  DisplayID revision....... 1.0
  Product type............. Display device (active)
  Extension count.......... 0
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... n/a
Display parameters
  Bloc revision............ 0
  Native resolution........ 1920x1200 pixels
  Screen size.............. 519 x 320 mm (23,7 in)
  Audio support............ Not supported
  Separate audio inputs.... Not supported
  Audio input override..... Not supported
  Power management......... Supported
  Fixed timing............. Supported
  Fixed pixel format....... Not supported
  De-interlacing........... Not supported
  Gamma.................... 2,20
  Aspect ratio............. 1,60:1
  Color bit depth.......... 8 bits per primary color
  Bits per pixel........... 6 bits
Color characteristics
  Bloc revision............ 0
  Color space.............. 1931 CIE (x,y)
  No. of white points...... 1
  No. of primaries......... 3
  Color plane.............. Temporal
  White point (default).... Wx 0,452 - Wy 0,331
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,612 - Ry 0,599
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,337 - Gy 0,059
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,938 - By 0,318
Type I timing - detailed
  Bloc revision............ 0
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1200p at 60Hz (16:10) [Native]
    Modeline............... "1920x1200" 154,000 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync
VESA timing standard
  Bloc revision............ 0
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - VESA DMT
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA DMT
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA DMT
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA DMT
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA DMT
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA DMT
    1280 x  800p at  60Hz - VESA DMT
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA DMT
    1280 x 1024p at  75Hz - VESA DMT
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA DMT
    1920 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA DMT
CEA timing standard
  Bloc revision............ 0
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 8:9)
     720 x  480i at  60Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 32:27)
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)
     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (16:9, 64:45)
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
Product serial number
  Bloc revision............ 0
  ASCII string............. C9536665178ST
General purpose ASCII string
  Bloc revision............ 0
  Serial number............ ABC 24" LCD Display 1920x1200
Interface power sequencing
  Bloc revision............ 0
  T1 range................. 0,8 to 16 ms
  T2 range................. 0 to 64 ms
  T3 range................. 0 to 64 ms
  T4 range................. 0 to 640 ms
  T5 range................. 0 to 320 ms
  T6 range................. 0 to 320 ms
Transfer characteristics
  Bloc revision............ 0
  White transfer curves.... Supported
  Primary color curves..... Not supported
  Color curve #1........... 15 samples
    Luminence point 1...... 0,588
    Luminence point 2...... 3,234
    Luminence point 3...... 7,546
    Luminence point 4...... 12,642
    Luminence point 5...... 18,816
    Luminence point 6...... 24,696
    Luminence point 7...... 34,104
    Luminence point 8...... 40,670
    Luminence point 9...... 48,020
    Luminence point 10..... 58,604
    Luminence point 11..... 65,268
    Luminence point 12..... 78,008
    Luminence point 13..... 85,554
    Luminence point 14..... 91,336
    Luminence point 15..... 97,804
Report information
  Date generated........... 2009-07-27
  Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
  Operating system......... 6.1.7100.2
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Code:

Monitor
  Model name............... ABC 302008WS
  Manufacturer............. ABC
  Plug and Play ID......... ABC8114
  Serial number............ DP19052887ET
  Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 10
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.4
  Input signal type........ Digital (DisplayPort)
  Color bit depth.......... 8 bits per primary color
  Color encoding formats... RGB 4:4:4
  Screen size.............. 650 x 410 mm (30,3 in)
  Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (DID-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... n/a
Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,678 - Ry 0,309
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,198 - Gy 0,698
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,146 - By 0,060
  White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
  Additional descriptors... None
Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 29-113kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 49-86Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 280MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 2560x1600p at 60Hz (16:10)
    Modeline............... "2560x1600" 268,000 2560 2608 2640 2720 1600 1603 1609 1646 +hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1920 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1920 x 1440p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1152 x  864p at  75Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x  800p at  60Hz - VESA STD
DisplayID information
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  Section size............. 24 bytes
  Product type............. Display device (active)
  Extension count.......... 0
Display parameters
  Bloc revision............ 0
  Native resolution........ 2560x1600 pixels
  Screen size.............. 650 x 410 mm (30,3 in)
  Audio support............ Not supported
  Separate audio inputs.... Not supported
  Audio input override..... Not supported
  Power management......... Supported
  Fixed timing............. Supported
  Fixed pixel format....... Not supported
  De-interlacing........... Not supported
  Gamma.................... 2,20
  Aspect ratio............. 1,60:1
  Color bit depth.......... 8 bits per primary color
  Bits per pixel........... 6 bits
Interface power sequencing
  Bloc revision............ 0
  T1 range................. 0,8 to 16 ms
  T2 range................. 0 to 64 ms
  T3 range................. 0 to 64 ms
  T4 range................. 0 to 640 ms
  T5 range................. 0 to 320 ms
  T6 range................. 0 to 320 ms
Report information
  Date generated........... 2009-07-27
  Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
  Operating system......... 6.1.7100.2
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This info is from Moninfo im no expert but it looks like i should set 1920x1080 60Mhz no problem...

And one detail my current 1680x1050 runs at 59Hz not sure if it matters...

Quote: Originally Posted by mikinho

I misread, for some reason I read you were on 9.2, not 9.7

When you create your custom resolution in ATI did you set it using Windows 7 Screen Resolution? You should find it under Advanced - List All Modes

I try that already when i select 1920x1080 it changes to 1024x768...

i got option to select this resolution but for some reason it dont want to...

mikinho · 27 Jul 2009

I saw that before only after my initial post. I corrected but you were already in the process of responding. I read your post as saying 9.2 for some reason (I had a long night).

When you add your custom resolution in Catalyst does it show in Windows 7 under "List All Modes"?

mikinho · 27 Jul 2009

Just curious, have you tried an older version to see if it is fixed? It is not unheard of for later drivers to reintroduce bugs.

Alex1986 · 27 Jul 2009

Yes it shows in :List All Modes" any way take a look:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6334/capturefiv.jpg

And yes with older versions i have same problem...basicly i dont expect much but i want this damn 1080

Edit: Ok im taking a nap so when i wake up it would be nice if at least someone would give me solution

Alex1986 · 28 Jul 2009

Morning...ok dudes any ideas? i just want to set resolution 1920x1080 not too much im asking huh any ideas will help thanks...

Any way i did try power strip again same thing windows see 1680x1050 as native and will not set any thing higher

im not sure but maybe thats becouse only Vista is supported not yet Windows 7...

I try every mode of 1920x1080 in advanced settings in list all modes when i set 1920x1080 it sets 1024x768

Basicly i need to have windows to see 1920x1080 as native recomended...

Edit:How can i create fake drivers for my monitor so it will see 1920x1080as native?

Dwarf · 28 Jul 2009

Hi Alex,

What is the maximum native resolution of your monitor, according to the monitor manual? What resolution were you able to set in XP?

You cannot set a higher resolution on an LCD/TFT display than its native resolution, and attempting to do so can damage it.

Alex1986 · 28 Jul 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf

Hi Alex,

What is the maximum native resolution of your monitor, according to the monitor manual? What resolution were you able to set in XP?

You cannot set a higher resolution on an LCD/TFT display than its native resolution, and attempting to do so can damage it.

Hey according to manual max native resolution is 1680x1050.

In in XP i had many more choices for example 1600x1200 worked in XP like a charm and in Windows 7 i dont even see option to select it...

When i try to set higher res than native well windows dont let me id dont do anything or set its too 1024x768...uhh XP was much easier i could even install wrong gfx drivers and it worked

And yes i know it can damage my monitor still i want higher res only in windows i need more space i cant afford secound display atm...

And i think theres no risk 1920x1080 is basicly same like 1680x1080 right? also i was thinking safer would be to set it at 60Hz or 50Hz?

Alex1986 · 29 Jul 2009

Well this is funny everything is great picture is sharp like in 1680x1050 but... i miss fev pixels on bottom where are options to set horizontal and vertical thingies in ATI catalsyst i cant find it...and my monitor has only option to set horizontal...no vertical no joke...HELP

Also i noticed its still 1680x1050 but stretched to 1920x1080 so i think theres no risk to monitor life...it works difreant than crt

so i guess i can use 60Hz refresh rate its still 1680x1050 but stretched to 1920x1080 right?

I only want answears to these 2 things and i will be happy

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