| Windows 7: Unsigned drivers questions on 64-bit Windows 7? |
11 Aug 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Unsigned drivers questions on 64-bit Windows 7? Hello everyone:
This is my first post on the Windows 7 forums.
I currently have an old P4 running 32-bit Windows 7 RC. I don’t think I can put 64-bit on that machine, but I am considering 64-bit on the retail version when it is released in October. I tested about thirty 32-bit shareware and freeware applications on 32-bit Windows 7 RC and they all work well.
My questions concern 32-bit drivers and unsigned 32-bit and 64-bit drivers on Windows 7 64-bit retail.
I have seen references to a BCedit command. I ran Bcdedit /set Bcdedit nointegritychecks ON on my Vista SP2 machine and it ran successfully. I have not tested what it will let me do as I now have no Vista driver issues. Here are my questions:
Which of these is the correct command to disable the signature check on Windows 7 RC?
bcdedit /set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
bcedit –SET TESTSIGN NO
Is there any reason to use the correct command rather than using F8 during the boot process?
Does the correct command work for both unsigned 32-bit and unsigned 64-bit drivers on a 64-bit Windows 7 system?
Is the correct command useful on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 for driver signing issues generally?
I assume the command works for only 1 boot cycle. Given that, is there any reason to run a command to re-enable the driver signing check if one reboots again after the driver installation?
Is there any other solution other than third party software, which I would prefer to avoid as I don’t expect to run into a driver issue frequently?
What is a decent estimate of how many of my 32-bit applications that work well on 32-bit Vista SP2 will install and work well on 64-bit Windows 7 retail, assuming I use the correct command to disable the signature check?
Thanks for any responses. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
11 Aug 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] Los Angeles |
Welcome to the forum.
Lots of good questions there, I'd encourage you to search for 'driver signing' using the search feature, there are quite a few good threads on the matter already.
All of your questions have been addressed in other threads. Bear in mind that there is a way to 'self-sign' drivers so that F8 doesn't need to be used every time you boot. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build/Mod OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] CPU Intel QX9650 Extreme 5.0 GHz Motherboard ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2 Memory 8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card 2x Sapphire Radeon HD4870X2 (QuadFire) Sound Card SupremeFX X-Fi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP 24" Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU Corsair HX1000 Case CoolerMaster - Cosmos S Cooling Custom Liquid - 320mm rad w/ 3x 80mm fans, CPU/NB/SB Blocks Hard Drives 4x WD Caviar Black 640GB (2TB+ Total)
MegaRAID SATA 300-8X Controller
2x RiDATA SataII SSD 64GB (Raid10)
1x LG Blu-ray read/write
1x Phillips LightScribe DVD read/write Internet Speed Fractional T1 - Shared Other Info OC'd to 5.0GHz @ 50c under full load |
11 Aug 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Captain:
I have used the search function and spent about 45 minutes reading the threads. I also read the stickies.
I found conflicting information regarding the correct command in Windows 7, thus my question about it. I can't test it myself as I don't have a 64-bit installation and won't until at least October.
I did not find any direct responses to my specific questions in the thread I found, but of course it is possible that searching doesn't necessarily find all threads.
Can you personally answer any of my questions?
I am aware of the self-signing solution, but as I recall from the threads it is not as simple as a simple command (if there is such a thing) and may not always be an option?
It may be that I will have no driver issues at all on 64-bit, but I don't want to take the plunge and then have to revert to 32-bit. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
11 Aug 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) In a ∞ Portal |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Hello everyone:
This is my first post on the Windows 7 forums.
I currently have an old P4 running 32-bit Windows 7 RC. I don’t think I can put 64-bit on that machine, but I am considering 64-bit on the retail version when it is released in October. I tested about thirty 32-bit shareware and freeware applications on 32-bit Windows 7 RC and they all work well. welcome to the forums...
only the a few of the latter P4's offers 64 bit support (but im pretty sure you know that...  ) Quote: My questions concern 32-bit drivers and unsigned 32-bit and 64-bit drivers on Windows 7 64-bit retail.
I have seen references to a BCedit command. I ran Bcdedit /set Bcdedit nointegritychecks ON on my Vista SP2 machine and it ran successfully. I have not tested what it will let me do as I now have no Vista driver issues. Here are my questions:
Which of these is the correct command to disable the signature check on Windows 7 RC?
bcdedit /set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
bcedit –SET TESTSIGN NO
Is there any reason to use the correct command rather than using F8 during the boot process?
Does the correct command work for both unsigned 32-bit and unsigned 64-bit drivers on a 64-bit Windows 7 system?
Is the correct command useful on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 for driver signing issues generally?
this is really not that useful on 32 bit systems since they already allow you unsigned drivers...
only 64 enforce this... Quote: I assume the command works for only 1 boot cycle. Given that, is there any reason to run a command to re-enable the driver signing check if one reboots again after the driver installation? it should work indefinitely if it works (there are some that say yes and some that no) Quote: Is there any other solution other than third party software, which I would prefer to avoid as I don’t expect to run into a driver issue frequently?
What is a decent estimate of how many of my 32-bit applications that work well on 32-bit Vista SP2 will install and work well on 64-bit Windows 7 retail, assuming I use the correct command to disable the signature check?
Thanks for any responses. i cannot estimate the number the systems that would need as there many pieces of hardware (especially very cheap third party hardware, or uncommon hardware) that would have to be accounted for, which i a user would not be able to live without...
as CZ said you can try the test mode where you can sign your own drivers and use those with having to worry whether the unsigned drivers requirement is on or off, that requirement can be set by this command
Bcdedit /store c:\boot\bcd /set {default} testsigning on | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server OS Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) CPU Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4) Motherboard IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS Memory OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel Graphics Card HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012 Monitor(s) Displays built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19" Screen Resolution 1280x800 /1440x900 Mouse Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse Cooling All Air Cooled Internet Speed College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k... Other Info love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
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