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12-31-2011
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#1 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
BIOS Update I'm one that tries to stay far away from flashing the BIOS unless there is a very compelling reason to do so, but browsing the download page for my MB, I noticed that they had released a new BIOS update in November to update my MB from AM3 to AM3+. Since I have no plans to buy a Bulldozer, is there any advantage to having AM3+ otherwise?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
12-31-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit |
No.
It's not a matter of "updating the motherboard" either, it's simply adding CPU codes to the BIOS so it can correctly recognize and set up an AM3+ CPU if one is installed. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 3GB DDR2-667 (2x1GB + 2x512MB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card on-board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2261 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~700KB/sec down, ~65KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
12-31-2011
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#3 | | |
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I try to live by that rule anyways. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number My Build OS win7 Ult 64 CPU i7 3930K & 3960X Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe Memory 16GB G-Skill 2133MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7970 Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 27 inch Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Mionix Mouse Mionix PSU Corsair AX1200 Case NZXT 810 Cooling Custom Loop, Swiftech HDBlock Hard Drives Crucial M4 256GB, 1.5TB WD Black for Data/Images Internet Speed Cable |
01-01-2012
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#4 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |

Quote: Originally Posted by Kipper If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I try to live by that rule anyways. Even with your Harley? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
01-01-2012
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#5 | | Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit |
Even though I'm generally someone to leap at BIOS updates, in the case of AM3, I would advise leaving it alone.
I have an AM3 board and made the MISTAKE of updating it to the latest BIOS. Not only would my 1600-speed memory not run at 1600 anymore, it wouldn't even run at 1333! In both cases, I got a BOOT error, requiring me to go back into the BIOS and slow down the memory.
That BIOS update was intended to add AM3+ support to my Gigabyte motherboard -- something I (like you) don't need, but I thought I would try it anyway, expecting that it would not make anything worse.
So, since I saved off the "old" BIOS before updating, I reflashed using that, and I'm back to running my memory at full speed again. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit CPU AMD 4400/Intel 915 Motherboard ASUS/Intel Memory 2GB DDR 400 Graphics Card ATI X1600/Builtin Intel 915 Sound Card Bluegear B-Enspirer/Builtin sound Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" widescreen Screen Resolution 1920x1200/1024 x 768 |
01-01-2012
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#6 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
On the other hand, it might help my memory, because my 1600s have never run better than 1300. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
01-01-2012
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#7 | | Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister On the other hand, it might help my memory, because my 1600s have never run better than 1300. NO ... what happened to me is that it HURT my memory. My memory which was able to boot and run OK at 1600 with the older BIOS, was reduced to running at 1033 with the latest BIOS.
So, I had to reflash with an earlier (year-old) BIOS version to get back to being able to use the memory at 1600. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win7 Home 32-bit CPU AMD 4400/Intel 915 Motherboard ASUS/Intel Memory 2GB DDR 400 Graphics Card ATI X1600/Builtin Intel 915 Sound Card Bluegear B-Enspirer/Builtin sound Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" widescreen Screen Resolution 1920x1200/1024 x 768 |
01-01-2012
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#8 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
I understood, but if it can go one way with a bad flash, it might go the other with a good one, if the old BIOS isn't what it should be. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
03-09-2012
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#9 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE |
Since I posted this question, they released another BIOS update. This time it only says that it modifies CPU code, but not which CPUs it effects. Is there a way to determine which CPUs it includes? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig) |
03-09-2012
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#10 | | MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Corazon No.
It's not a matter of "updating the motherboard" either, it's simply adding CPU codes to the BIOS so it can correctly recognize and set up an AM3+ CPU if one is installed. Hello Corazon,
This is a good thread and your's is an excellent post for everybody who jump at updating a BIOS blindly, whenever a new version is released. Regards,
sreedhav | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio C series VPCCB35FN laptop OS MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU IntelCore i5@2.40GHz; Sandy Bridge 32nm Tech. Motherboard Sony Vaio Version:C609NJYJ Memory 4096Mb RAM; Single ChannelDDR3@665MHz; DRAM Freq:662MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6630M; GPU:Whistler;BIOS Core&mem Clock:123.36 Sound Card REALTEK High Definition Audio Device; INTEL Display Card Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Intel HD;Resolution:1920*1040 Pixels; BPP:32bits Screen Resolution Current Resolution:1920*1080 Pixels; Monitor Frequency:60Hz Keyboard Logitech Bluetooth+ Generic Integrated K-B Mouse Logitech Bluetooth Cooling Lateral Exhaust with a Cooling Pad Placed Beneath. Hard Drives Internal HD:TOSHIBA MK5061GSY; Real Size:488 GB;NTFS; 3 Partitions; SATA; HEADS:16
External HDD: WD Elements 1023 PORTABLE; Estimated Size: 1TB; NTFS; 3 Partitions Internet Speed 2MBPS Other Info 1)Trend Micro Titanium Maximum Security Suite Version:3
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3)MBAM--PRO
4)WATERFOX+IE9 +WOT+LINKEXTEND+ DRWEBCUREIT LINK CHECKER
5)SPYWAREBLASTER
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