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Windows 7: Epson Perfection 1640SU - Driver Problem


16 Nov 2010   #41

Windows 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michaelq View Post
The only problem I have is with the automatic document feeder (adf). The problem is not the adf itself, it is the scan results. When I scan several pages (e.g. A4) the first page has the right format but the second page not. The borders are cut to almost half of the size of the document. I tried different applications with the adf, but always the same result. I checked all settings and tried to set the paper size bofore the scanning process. But I had no luck.

I tried VueScan too. With VueScan I can scan several pages with the adf without this size problem. But before I pruchase VueScan. Does anybod know this problem and have a solution? Is there another setting I have to change in the drivers .inf before installing the driver?

I'm having the same issue. First page is fine, then everything after is cut off...I don't think the 2400 had a sheet feeder. I think it was a photo only version. Has anyone tried this type of driver hack using one of the xxxx office models?

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23 Dec 2010   #42

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

@ pcspecialist
Thankyou so much! I also have an Epson Perfection 1640SU scanner. I was almost resigned
to not getting it to work under Win.7 64bit, as the Epson site did not provide a Win.7
64 bit driver for it. (The 32 bit ver driver did not work). Your solution of modifying
the ES27.inf file worked perfectly! For others the download link that pcspecialist
provided to epson is no longer valid. However just go to the epson.com site and search
for:
epson12180.exe. Download it and click on it to start it. At the install window choose
to extract the files.
Once files are extracted do not continue with the installation. First go to:
C:/EPSON/epson12180_twain_driver_and_epson_scan_utility_304a.
Navigate there and find and open the ES27.ini file by clicking on it. Notepad opens.
Find the three instances of the USB\VID_04B8&PID_011B and replace with USB
\VID_04B8&PID_010A and save and close the file.
Now go to Device Manager. Find it by going to the start button and clicking on help.
Search for Device manager. Open Device Manager. Find Imaging Devices. There will be
your scanner that is not working. Right click on it and choose update driver and
software. Browse to c:/EPSON/epson12180_twain_driver_and_epson_scan_utility_304a and
select that folder. Let it run to install.
Now go to Control panel/Hardware and Sound/Devices and Printers. You will find an icon
for the Epson Perfection 1640 scanner there. Right click on the icon. Select start
scan. And you are in business!
If you like right click on the icon and select create shortcut. This will place a
shortcut to the scanner on your desktop, which is more convenient to access. I also
created a folder in My Pictures/Epson Perfection scanner to save my scans to. Remember
for each scan to select .jpg or .bmp and then Preview. Then you can use your mouse to
close crop to the preview image before doing the final scan. Once scan is done, type in
an appropriate file name for your scan and save it.
Thanks again to pcspecialist, this saved a trip to buy a new scanner.
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06 Mar 2011   #43

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pcspecialist View Post
I was able to modify the Epson Perfection 2400 Photo driver to work with my 1640SU under Windows 7 x64.
Here's the driver: Epson America, Inc. - Downloading File Page

Open it with 7-Zip (or whatever you use), extract the file named _winzip_, extract the files contained in _winzip_ using 7-Zip (or whatever you use).

Open Es27.inf and replace all instances of USB\VID_04B8&PID_011B with USB\VID_04B8&PID_010A and save and close the file.

Now go to the Device Manager, right click your scanner, Update Driver and Software...
Browse my computer..... and use the folder you extracted _winzip_ (with the now modified Es27.inf) to.

That should do it, worked great for me.
Your "work-around" solution brought me success as well, thanks.

I have an Epson Perfection 1640SU and its still in good working order. So, to toss it into the waste bin simply because of a driver is nonsense.

I am curious though, how does the changing of the 011B to 010A change anything?
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06 Mar 2011   #44

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TauTau View Post
Same problem here... tried the suggested solution, but it didn't work... Should I dump my scanner now? Shouldn't I have been installing a 64bit OS at all? Seems the Windows world still isn't quite there, my MacBook works fine with 64bit OS

Edit: There is a solution, though it costs: VueScan from VueScan 9 Scanning Software for Windows 7, Mac OS X (Snow Leopard) and Linux
And to relativate the MACOS statement: I have to use the same there

Hi there

Easier solution -- if you have VISTA 32 bit or an XP system why not run the scanner in a Virtual Machine --I do this for a Canon LIDE scanner.

You don't have any problems either sharing the files between your Host OS and the VM so no probs acessing your scanned data.

Saves mucking about with dubious drivers -- and your VM only needs to be a small say 512 MB or 768 MB VM.

Vmplayer is FREE from vmware -- For just this type of application I wouldn't bother with XP mode (in any case you'd have to have at least Windows 7 pro to install it).

Read the tutorials in the Virtualisation section on how to set up a VM -- it's much easier than you think and very useful too for other stuff.

Especially in these economic times why chuck out perfectly good functioning hardware if you can make it work on the new OS easily -- the vm solution does that PERFECTLY.

I accept the solution of messing around with the driver worked - but if you Upgrade / re-install your Windows 7 system again you'll have to do the same thing and it might not work.

It's a get around but I am not really in favour of fiddling around and hacking these pieces of Software to get something to work when the Native driver works fine under the OS it was designed for.

The Virtual Machine solution without change will continue to work even if you run the VM on a LINUX host !!!. You can run the VM on ANY supported Host too.

Cheers
jimbo
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06 Mar 2011   #45

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

jimbo45,

Thank you for your post.

I feel the same as you in that I prefer NOT to "fiddle around" with drivers that were actually intended, made, for a hardware device other than the one than I am using.

I use my scanner very infrequently but there are times when its needed and the copies must be clear and sharp, hence the purchase of the Epson Perfection 1640SU.

Until today I was not aware of this thread. I started a thread elsewhere in the forum concerning the same problem of finding a driver for Windows 7 x64
Rising software+drivers cost - Epson 1640SU scanner

If you refer to that post you will see that the suggested solution, Virtual Box, has difficulties recognizing USB connected devices. However, on VMware's website it is said of their VMware Player:


Most Advanced Virtualization Platform

Built on over 10 years of virtualization excellence, run the most demanding applications with VMware Player’s advanced memory and CPU management technology. Run 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems with up to eight virtual CPUs and 32GB of RAM dedicated to each virtual machine. Driverless printing makes your PC printers automatically accessible to your Windows and Linux virtual machines—no configuration or drivers required.

As I said, I don't scan frequently but evenso the VMware Player is worth looking into.

One question, do you experience a substantial increase in CPU usage when using the Player? In the statement quoted from their website it says that it has advanced memory and CPU managment technology.
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07 Mar 2011   #46

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by C32C3 View Post
jimbo45,

Thank you for your post.

I feel the same as you in that I prefer NOT to "fiddle around" with drivers that were actually intended, made, for a hardware device other than the one than I am using.

I use my scanner very infrequently but there are times when its needed and the copies must be clear and sharp, hence the purchase of the Epson Perfection 1640SU.

Until today I was not aware of this thread. I started a thread elsewhere in the forum concerning the same problem of finding a driver for Windows 7 x64
Rising software+drivers cost - Epson 1640SU scanner

If you refer to that post you will see that the suggested solution, Virtual Box, has difficulties recognizing USB connected devices. However, on VMware's website it is said of their VMware Player:


Most Advanced Virtualization Platform

Built on over 10 years of virtualization excellence, run the most demanding applications with VMware Player’s advanced memory and CPU management technology. Run 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems with up to eight virtual CPUs and 32GB of RAM dedicated to each virtual machine. Driverless printing makes your PC printers automatically accessible to your Windows and Linux virtual machines—no configuration or drivers required.

As I said, I don't scan frequently but evenso the VMware Player is worth looking into.

One question, do you experience a substantial increase in CPU usage when using the Player? In the statement quoted from their website it says that it has advanced memory and CPU managment technology.
Hi there
I sometimes run my XP Virtual Machine with the scanner software even on a tiny ASPIRE 1 NETBOOK (although I upgraded the netbook to 2 GB RAM).

If your VM isn't doing a lot of processiing the CPU usage is negligible - especially on modern machines.

What VM's tend to gobble up is RAM but a 512 MB XP VM your scanner software etc will run just fine -- the driver will work 100% correctly and your images will be clear and sharp just as they would have been on the original REAL machine.

Also when you've finished just shut down the VM.

I've had ZERO issues with either VMWARE PLAYER or WORKSTATION. The Free vmware player is what you probably need if your requirements are basically scanning plus the software.

As I said sharing the data with the REAL machine is no prob so importing scans etc into WORD or whatever is not a problem -- and in any case you could even run things like Paperport / MS Office etc on your XP machine as well to make it even easier to integrate your documents.

To share printing just treat your vm machine as another separate machine on the network or simply print the documents from your REAL Windows 7 machine.

Cheers
jimbo

Cheers
jimbo
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08 Sep 2011   #47

windows 7 premium 64 bit
 
 
solution for ADF-problem

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sfxmaker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michaelq View Post
The only problem I have is with the automatic document feeder (adf). The problem is not the adf itself, it is the scan results. When I scan several pages (e.g. A4) the first page has the right format but the second page not. The borders are cut to almost half of the size of the document. I tried different applications with the adf, but always the same result. I checked all settings and tried to set the paper size bofore the scanning process. But I had no luck.

I tried VueScan too. With VueScan I can scan several pages with the adf without this size problem. But before I pruchase VueScan. Does anybod know this problem and have a solution? Is there another setting I have to change in the drivers .inf before installing the driver?

I'm having the same issue. First page is fine, then everything after is cut off...I don't think the 2400 had a sheet feeder. I think it was a photo only version. Has anyone tried this type of driver hack using one of the xxxx office models?

@sfxmaker and michaelq:

I had the same problem with the ADF (first page OK, but from the second page on: big "margins"), but I found a workaround.

Just follow pcspecialist's workaround (see beginning of this thread) and only change the following things:
  • Find the file to download here: ftp://ftp.epson.com/drivers/epson12203.exe (it's another driver file from Epson's ftp-site)
  • In the file Es0d.inf, you need to change the string USB\VID_04B8&PID_0107 into USB\VID_04B8&PID_010A (you will find it three times; in fact you will only need to change the last "7" into "A")
  • The scanner you will see has now become the Epson Expression 1600
I hope this all is clear to you. I found this while digging out the workaround that pcspecialist found!

Greetings from Belgium

Guy
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08 Sep 2011   #48

Windows 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by guyc View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sfxmaker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michaelq View Post
The only problem I have is with the automatic document feeder (adf). The problem is not the adf itself, it is the scan results. When I scan several pages (e.g. A4) the first page has the right format but the second page not. The borders are cut to almost half of the size of the document. I tried different applications with the adf, but always the same result. I checked all settings and tried to set the paper size bofore the scanning process. But I had no luck.

I tried VueScan too. With VueScan I can scan several pages with the adf without this size problem. But before I pruchase VueScan. Does anybod know this problem and have a solution? Is there another setting I have to change in the drivers .inf before installing the driver?

I'm having the same issue. First page is fine, then everything after is cut off...I don't think the 2400 had a sheet feeder. I think it was a photo only version. Has anyone tried this type of driver hack using one of the xxxx office models?

@sfxmaker and michaelq:

I had the same problem with the ADF (first page OK, but from the second page on: big "margins"), but I found a workaround.

Just follow pcspecialist's workaround (see beginning of this thread) and only change the following things:
  • Find the file to download here: ftp://ftp.epson.com/drivers/epson12203.exe (it's another driver file from Epson's ftp-site)
  • In the file Es0d.inf, you need to change the string USB\VID_04B8&PID_0107 into USB\VID_04B8&PID_010A (you will find it three times; in fact you will only need to change the last "7" into "A")
  • The scanner you will see has now become the Epson Expression 1600
I hope this all is clear to you. I found this while digging out the workaround that pcspecialist found!

Greetings from Belgium

Guy
THANK YOU! This worked perfectly. As an FYI: the hardware specs of the Expression 1600 and Perfection 1640 are nearly identical so it's a good driver match all around. Great find! Thanks to you and PCSpecialist and a big "%#%@$@ Epson! No Windows 7 64 bit driver available? Really?"
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13 Nov 2011   #49

windows 7 premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Saves mucking about with dubious drivers
and

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by C32C3 View Post
I prefer NOT to "fiddle around" with drivers that were actually intended, made, for a hardware device other than the one than I am using.
I just want to inform you that I use my scanner Epson Perfection 1640 SU including ADF several times a week and, since my previous post, everything is working 100% fine.

I wouldn't call this workaround "mucking with dubious drivers" or "fiddling around", because the only thing PCSpecialist and I have done, was make Windows 7 believe that we're working with another resembling Epson scanner instead of the Perfection 1640SU we really use!

But feel free to use and share other solutions! As long as you can continue working with your scanner!

Greetings

Guy, Belgium
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13 Nov 2011   #50

windows 7 premium 64 bit
 
 
problem solved

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sensor View Post
Hi Friends.

If i am not in the right sub-forum, then please move it to the correct position (thx)

I would like to keep my Epson Perfection 1640SU Scanner and therefore i would like to know how to install the proper driver. The Epson sites only provides an stone-old Vista 32 Bit driver. The driver installs without any message, and i even can select the Scanner in the Twain Menu in my Paint Program, but when pressing on the startbutton then comes "An error occures while trying to open the Data Source". Hardware Manager says "No Driver installed"....I'm gettin' mad...

I am using Windows 7 PRO - 64Bit (full, no RC) and need a little help from you.

THX
Hello topic starter

Maybe you could markt this thread as solved?

Greetings

Guy, Belgium
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