| Windows 7: Upgrade from 4870 to 6850 BSOD problems |
25 Jul 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate Kočevje |
Upgrade from 4870 to 6850 BSOD problems Today I installed hd6850.
I did a clean install with use of Driver Fusion(ex driver sweeper)
And Im getting atikmdag.sys bsod when booting.
I searched for atikmdag.sys in windows folder, and found 9 atikmdag.sys and 2 atikmdag.sys.mui. http://shrani.si/f/2h/Ev/2yUnpX0S/capture.png
My question is: Can I delete this files, when doing clean install?
An after cleaning with DF Im still having a lot of files wich begins with ati...sys(ATi technologies).
Are they safe to delete. Im thinking, probably not. Or can I ,but not ones in
amd64_microsoft-windows-w..ationservice .... folders?
This is minidump report: http://shrani.si/f/1J/F1/1L6H4Htt/captudfre.png http://shrani.si/f/39/mN/4zJlQXUC/df.png
I know there are a lot of solutions on the net but nothing worked.
I will try different version of drivers. But first wil try clean install with drivers only, without CCC. One guy did a extended research, and found aou that, without CCC, there is no BSOD.
I would be glad, if you can give me answer to those two questions. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate CPU E8200 3.456 OC Motherboard MSI P35 Platinum Memory Kingston 4GB 864MHz, DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire 6850 1gb Sound Card Realtek 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Speedlink + Gaming Razer Belkin n52te Mouse Prestigio Optical Racer mouse PSU 650w Cooling Scythe KATANA III + two fans Hard Drives WD 500GB, 7200rpm, L2 16MB, SATA2 Internet Speed 20mb/2mb Other Info Comodo Internet Security, Malwarebytes, CfosSpeed 8 |
25 Jul 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit NC |
Firstly, check the physical connections....the card is fully seated and that you have the right power cables connected and fully seated. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4 Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 6790 D Sound Card On board RealTek HD Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300 Screen Resolution 1600 X 900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
25 Jul 2012
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#3 | | Microsoft Windows 8 Professional |
Driversweeper screwed your system, time for a fresh windows install. | My System Specs | | OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled. |
25 Jul 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
I would uninstall all drivers you have used
Then go to AMD.com get them from there and don't get the Beta 12.7 it will not be good for your card get the 12.6 you should be ok after that also when installing drivers there is a color mark that determines if it was instaled you have red bad install yellow didn't install properly and Green good install
When you installed drivers if it gave you anything besides green then it was a driver issue
Also if you Overclocked your card and it is not in spec that can happen too | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
25 Jul 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate Kočevje |
Ok. So I restored everything from driver sweeper and driver fusion backup and I was able to logon to windows in normal mode. What should I do. Uninstall drivers And install them again? Now they are installed but they are not working properly
But what to do with 4870 leftovers?
And OldMX I think you are right about DS, because I had a lot of warnings and errors in Event viewer before I restored backup. Now it seems that everything is normal.
This is what i get when trying to start CCC
So uninstallation seems best thing to do. Any other suggestion before I do that? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate CPU E8200 3.456 OC Motherboard MSI P35 Platinum Memory Kingston 4GB 864MHz, DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire 6850 1gb Sound Card Realtek 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Speedlink + Gaming Razer Belkin n52te Mouse Prestigio Optical Racer mouse PSU 650w Cooling Scythe KATANA III + two fans Hard Drives WD 500GB, 7200rpm, L2 16MB, SATA2 Internet Speed 20mb/2mb Other Info Comodo Internet Security, Malwarebytes, CfosSpeed 8 |
25 Jul 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |

Quote: Originally Posted by DigDeep Ok. So I restored everything from driver sweeper and driver fusion backup and I was able to logon to windows in normal mode. What should I do. Uninstall drivers And install them again? Now they are installed but they are not working properly
But what to do with 4870 leftovers?
And OldMX I think you are right about DS, because I had a lot of warnings and errors in Event viewer before I restored backup. Now it seems that everything is normal. First off before you uninstalled the 4870 did you take out the drivers first and after th at did you use the drivers from the disc for the 6850?
There is no need to clean those files after uninstling if it went through with success then leave it be if you were trying to clean those files after you just uninstalled them might be your issue too after each uninstall you have to reboot some how i think your drivers got botched trying to use driversweeper when you didnt need too | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
25 Jul 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate Kočevje |
No I just switched cards, and then tried to uninstall drivers.
At least now when i restored files and regsitry, everything looks ok. Should I just uninstall drivers, and reinstall new ones, without using Driver sweeper
edit: Uninstalled and installed new drivers, and at the end I ger yellow sign(warnings occured during installation) OMG, am gonna kill myself. 4h thats how long Im playing with this.
now I will restart pc, and probably get BSOD again. grrr...
yep BSOD
Last edited by DigDeep; 25 Jul 2012 at 11:50 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate CPU E8200 3.456 OC Motherboard MSI P35 Platinum Memory Kingston 4GB 864MHz, DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire 6850 1gb Sound Card Realtek 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Speedlink + Gaming Razer Belkin n52te Mouse Prestigio Optical Racer mouse PSU 650w Cooling Scythe KATANA III + two fans Hard Drives WD 500GB, 7200rpm, L2 16MB, SATA2 Internet Speed 20mb/2mb Other Info Comodo Internet Security, Malwarebytes, CfosSpeed 8 |
25 Jul 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
your supposed to uninstall first then take the card out place new card in fire it up then re install drivers
I did something similar to what you did once and my system reconized it but normaly i would never do that I just forgot lol cause i was rushing cause i had some family matters to take care of but none the less it worked
cant say the same for all systems but the stardard would be to take drivers out first remove the card then put new one in fire it up and re install drivers | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
25 Jul 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate Kočevje |
Well this one was really hard.
I reinstalled windows(formated) and again I was getting same BSOD. Then I thought maybe the graphic card itself is at fault. I went trough connections again, reseated. Didnt help.
Then I opened gpu-z and export bios.rom. I check it, and I saw that somebody was playing with rbe before. So I decided to flash the card. But didnt install drivers.
Then I remember that one guy did extended reasearch regarding atikmdag.sys, and he tried to reproduce bsod, he was getting bsod, on every computer with ccc on. But when he installed driver only, he didnt get bsod. So I decided to try, so I installed driver only, without all decoders etc. rebooted, and It worked. I rebooted only once so far, but I hope that this one works.
So now I dont know what really helped, but it was probably the driver only thingy.
Here it is From Microsoft Newsgroup Site about ATIKMDAG Issue
Level5Owner's Post My System Engineer and I have after many headaches and ALOT of tylenol have Identified the apparent Cause of this Problem.
What it is Not -
Vista ( 32bit or 64bit ), XP ( 32bit or 64bit ), .NET framework, System Memory, Heat, Dual Monitors ( Extended Desktop or Clone Mode ) .
What it appears to be -
The ATI CATALYST CONTROL PANEL SOFTWARE ( Not the Stand Alone Driver )
Basis For Conclusion -
We tested all My Systems ( 4 of them ,2 XP ( 1 64bit and 1 32bit ) 2 VISTA Ultimate ( 1 32bit and 1 64bit ) from the ground up with NUMEROUS CLEAN installs of the BASE OS to try and reproduce the Error After every Software install. We did this with the OS Updated and With the OS Naked. The Error only Occured AFTER installing the CATALYST CONTROL PANEL SOFTWARE.
We then Did Clean installs on All the Systems and Installed ONLY the CATALYST SOFTWARE to see if it was a Conflict with any other software.
The Error occured Almost Immediatly.
We then Purged the Systems of All ATI Software and Tried to install the Software in the Individual packages the ATI does Provide. As soon as we installed the CATALYST CONTROL PANEL SOFTWARE the ERROR Occured.
We thenPurged the Systems again of the ATI SOFTWARE and Installed ONLY THE DRIVER. We ran the Systems for 2 weeks the ATIKMDAG HAS STOPPED RESPONDING AND RECOVERED Error did not reassert itself.
If you have the CATALYST CONTROL PANEL INSTALLED and Do a Seach of Your Primary hard Drive you will Find that the ATIKMDAG.SV file is ONLY found in the CATALYST CONTROL PANEL SOFTWARE PACKAGE.
If you Remove the CATALYST CONTROL PANEL you will remove ATIKMDAG.SV from your System and this solves at least this Issue.
The problem seems to be an encoding error in how the CATALYST control Panel Software Interacts with ICQ's in relation to The OS instructions.
It should be Noted that ATI apparently is aware of the Issue as they Offer a Standalone Download of the Graphics Driver even thought they will not Officially Acknowledge the Issue.
My System Engineer and I both have Notified ATI of our Findings. They have not responded.
OF NOTE -
Graphics Performance Does not appear to suffer when runnig ONLY the Graphics Driver. The Only Differance is that You Can Not use the Features that the CATALYST CONTROL PANEL SOFTWARE provides. However for graphics Stability it is a Small Price to pay.
Also Before you Chuck your ATI graphics Card For an NVIDIA Graphics Card note that NVIDIA Graphics Cards Present a Simalar Error and More Importantly NVIDIA DOES NOT OFFER a Standalone DRIVER, you take thier CONTROL PANEL or Nothing.
Last edited by DigDeep; 26 Jul 2012 at 10:22 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate CPU E8200 3.456 OC Motherboard MSI P35 Platinum Memory Kingston 4GB 864MHz, DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire 6850 1gb Sound Card Realtek 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Speedlink + Gaming Razer Belkin n52te Mouse Prestigio Optical Racer mouse PSU 650w Cooling Scythe KATANA III + two fans Hard Drives WD 500GB, 7200rpm, L2 16MB, SATA2 Internet Speed 20mb/2mb Other Info Comodo Internet Security, Malwarebytes, CfosSpeed 8 |
05 Aug 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate Kočevje |
Ok. After few weeks of using drivers only, I decided to try with CCC installation, and everything that goes with it.
First I made new system restore, so i can go back if anything goes wrong. I found out that disabling ULPS, also helps with atikmdag.sys BSOD. I disable it with use of Sapphire trixx utility. It can be done manually, through registry Go to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Cl ass\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
Change EnableUlps from 1 to 0.
Installed CCC and everything is fine now. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 Ultimate CPU E8200 3.456 OC Motherboard MSI P35 Platinum Memory Kingston 4GB 864MHz, DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire 6850 1gb Sound Card Realtek 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2032BW Screen Resolution 1680 * 1050 Keyboard Speedlink + Gaming Razer Belkin n52te Mouse Prestigio Optical Racer mouse PSU 650w Cooling Scythe KATANA III + two fans Hard Drives WD 500GB, 7200rpm, L2 16MB, SATA2 Internet Speed 20mb/2mb Other Info Comodo Internet Security, Malwarebytes, CfosSpeed 8 Upgrade from 4870 to 6850 BSOD problems problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:28 AM. | |