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Windows 7 - Swapfile question |
01-22-2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit |
Swapfile question Ok.... I have XP Pro installed and to date I always use a small partition @ the start of my slave drive for a set pagefile. about 3.5 gigs. I wonder if I dual boot Windows 7 and XP will I be able to use the same pagefile for Windows 7? Seeing as both Windows 7 and XP uses a pagefile, but they aren't running @ the same time?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Generic Homebuilt OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Int i7 950 [3.06] O.C @3.36ghz Quad Core (HT) = 7.6 WEI Motherboard ATX LGA1366 DDR3 Asus Rampage III Formula Memory DDR3 6GB/Kit PC3-16000 Patriot @ 1733 mhz = 7.9 WEI Graphics Card NVIDIA GTS450 1GB PCI-E Zotac = 7.2 WEI Sound Card X-Fi 2 Built-in 8-Channel High Definition Monitor(s) Displays K-24 mdwb Screen Resolution 1920 x1200 Keyboard Multimedia USB Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech M500 PSU 600W Coolermaster eXtremePower Plus Case Coolermaster Centurion 590 Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Extreme Hard Drives Crucial C300 2.5" 64GB SATA 3.x MLC Int. SSD. = 7.9 WEI, WD 320 Gig SATA 2.x 16mb Int., SeaGate 500 Gig SATA 1.x 8mb Int., 1.5TB WD SATA 2.x 64MB Green Ext., 1TB WD SATA 2.x 32MB Black Ext., SeaGate 400 Gig IDE Ext. Other Info Windows Experience Index = 7.2 overall |
01-22-2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 | Windows 8 build 7989 |
You might encounter problems as Windows 7 has enhanced file and folder and drive security, and if you create a pagefile under one OS and try to access it from another the security parameters, permissions ,etc will be off.
However, You may *seem* to use the same one - as each OS that you boot into may over write the other one.
This is going to be tricky, to be sure.... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 | Windows 8 build 7989 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Calssified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX Revolution '06 PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SSD Sata II |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Internet Speed Cable - 15Mbit down / 5 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
01-22-2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit |
Well I thought Windows created an up to date pagefile each time it started up? Which led to think maybe it could be used by any Windows OS. Hmmm... I wonder if I should attempt this path anyway.. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Generic Homebuilt OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Int i7 950 [3.06] O.C @3.36ghz Quad Core (HT) = 7.6 WEI Motherboard ATX LGA1366 DDR3 Asus Rampage III Formula Memory DDR3 6GB/Kit PC3-16000 Patriot @ 1733 mhz = 7.9 WEI Graphics Card NVIDIA GTS450 1GB PCI-E Zotac = 7.2 WEI Sound Card X-Fi 2 Built-in 8-Channel High Definition Monitor(s) Displays K-24 mdwb Screen Resolution 1920 x1200 Keyboard Multimedia USB Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech M500 PSU 600W Coolermaster eXtremePower Plus Case Coolermaster Centurion 590 Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Extreme Hard Drives Crucial C300 2.5" 64GB SATA 3.x MLC Int. SSD. = 7.9 WEI, WD 320 Gig SATA 2.x 16mb Int., SeaGate 500 Gig SATA 1.x 8mb Int., 1.5TB WD SATA 2.x 64MB Green Ext., 1TB WD SATA 2.x 32MB Black Ext., SeaGate 400 Gig IDE Ext. Other Info Windows Experience Index = 7.2 overall |
01-22-2009
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#4 | | Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
Do you have any reason to keep the pagefile after use?
It can be yet another security leak, as it stores cookies etc as you work.
One way out of your dilemma, could be to clear the pagefile everytime you have finished. It adds a small amount to your switch off time, but nothing serious.
If that solution interests you, do this
Start Regedit. Navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
Select ClearPageFileAtShutdown from the list on the right.
Right on it and select Modify.
Change the value to 1 to enable.
Reboot your computer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Three desktops and one laptop with good specs.. OS Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
01-22-2009
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#5 | | |
If it doesn't work well, then you'll know
Although it's probably not the best idea | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS 7 Ultimate x64 CPU i5 2500K 4.7 Ghz Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe Gen 3 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX 580 DirectCU II Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x2 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Lian Li PC-V1020A Cooling Noctua NH-D14: 3x140mm Gelid Wing 14 : Noctua NF-P12 120mm Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) Other Info Laptop Specs:
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01-22-2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 | Windows 8 build 7989 |
If you use Dave's method to remove the pagefile then you're in effect making a new pagefile every time you boot - and thus removing it every time you shutdown / restart. This will have a bit of a performance impact, but the main thing is that you will still not be using the *same* pagefile.sys file. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 | Windows 8 build 7989 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Calssified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX Revolution '06 PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SSD Sata II |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Internet Speed Cable - 15Mbit down / 5 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
01-22-2009
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#7 | | Win7 Ultimate x64 on Desktop / Win7 Ultimate x86 on laptop / Win7 x86 Starter on Netbook |

Quote: Originally Posted by Beginning Ok.... I have XP Pro installed and to date I always use a small partition @ the start of my slave drive for a set pagefile. about 3.5 gigs. I wonder if I dual boot Windows 7 and XP will I be able to use the same pagefile for Windows 7? Seeing as both Windows 7 and XP uses a pagefile, but they aren't running @ the same time? You can have your page/swap file on another drive/partition without problems.
Last edited by Romulinx2; 01-22-2009 at 01:23 AM..
Reason: info update
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dilithium Computers/Engineering (Myself) Star date 42.739285.5432.9 OS Win7 Ultimate x64 on Desktop / Win7 Ultimate x86 on laptop / Win7 x86 Starter on Netbook CPU AMD Phenom 965 X4 3.4Ghz cpu Black Edition Motherboard Gigabyte 790XT Memory 12 Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidea Gforce GTX 470 Sound Card Onboard Realtek hi-fi Monitor(s) Displays Lg 3D led 23" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech wireless K350 Mouse Logitech G500 gaming mouse. PSU OCZ 700W GameXstream Case Artec 10000 Cooling On board + many case fans Hard Drives Loads maxstore sata 1 & 2/ loads of partitions + 1Tb Hitachi sata 2. Ocz ssd. Internet Speed Talk talk. 11Mb Other Info My PC was hand built with matchsticks. xbox 360 controller. Printers,fax......... |
01-22-2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit |
@ davehc - No I don't do anything with it, I'm also a linux fan and almost every linux version out there uses a seperate small partition for the swapfile. I'm quite positive thats why most linux distro's are so quick. I'd like to give Windows 7 a partition for the swapfile also.. I just thought it may be able to use the same one.
@smarteyeball - Hehehe... although it's not rocket science to reinstall everything now is it? It's just time consuming... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Generic Homebuilt OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Int i7 950 [3.06] O.C @3.36ghz Quad Core (HT) = 7.6 WEI Motherboard ATX LGA1366 DDR3 Asus Rampage III Formula Memory DDR3 6GB/Kit PC3-16000 Patriot @ 1733 mhz = 7.9 WEI Graphics Card NVIDIA GTS450 1GB PCI-E Zotac = 7.2 WEI Sound Card X-Fi 2 Built-in 8-Channel High Definition Monitor(s) Displays K-24 mdwb Screen Resolution 1920 x1200 Keyboard Multimedia USB Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech M500 PSU 600W Coolermaster eXtremePower Plus Case Coolermaster Centurion 590 Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Extreme Hard Drives Crucial C300 2.5" 64GB SATA 3.x MLC Int. SSD. = 7.9 WEI, WD 320 Gig SATA 2.x 16mb Int., SeaGate 500 Gig SATA 1.x 8mb Int., 1.5TB WD SATA 2.x 64MB Green Ext., 1TB WD SATA 2.x 32MB Black Ext., SeaGate 400 Gig IDE Ext. Other Info Windows Experience Index = 7.2 overall |
01-22-2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit |
@ RomulinX2 - I've been doing it for years.... But now it sounds like davehc is saying it's a security risk? No don't tell me this now...... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Generic Homebuilt OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Int i7 950 [3.06] O.C @3.36ghz Quad Core (HT) = 7.6 WEI Motherboard ATX LGA1366 DDR3 Asus Rampage III Formula Memory DDR3 6GB/Kit PC3-16000 Patriot @ 1733 mhz = 7.9 WEI Graphics Card NVIDIA GTS450 1GB PCI-E Zotac = 7.2 WEI Sound Card X-Fi 2 Built-in 8-Channel High Definition Monitor(s) Displays K-24 mdwb Screen Resolution 1920 x1200 Keyboard Multimedia USB Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech M500 PSU 600W Coolermaster eXtremePower Plus Case Coolermaster Centurion 590 Cooling Zalman CNPS10X Extreme Hard Drives Crucial C300 2.5" 64GB SATA 3.x MLC Int. SSD. = 7.9 WEI, WD 320 Gig SATA 2.x 16mb Int., SeaGate 500 Gig SATA 1.x 8mb Int., 1.5TB WD SATA 2.x 64MB Green Ext., 1TB WD SATA 2.x 32MB Black Ext., SeaGate 400 Gig IDE Ext. Other Info Windows Experience Index = 7.2 overall |
01-22-2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 | Windows 8 build 7989 |
Not removing the swap file on your system *can* be a security risk.
It is not *definitely* a security risk, it is also dependent upon a variety of factors, including but not limited to:
what sort of info you actually store on your machine (usernames and PWs for sites, banking info, etc) as well as browser cache settings, etc.
In addition, it is a risk only if someone gets a hold of the file / drive and is able to extract data from it.
Then again it is only a risk if they can actually make out the data that is extracted.
A variety of factors. The bottom line, though, is that *sharing* swap *files* is not a good idea.
Sharing the space is fine - but the files themselves? Bad bad idea.
Also, *nix is not faster only* because of the small swap file at the beginning of the system, although this helps a bit. Other factors that help out in the speed factor are *much much smaller kernel code (on a P4 I was compiling kernel code in less than 45 minutes - I am pretty *positive* that compiling XP's kernel alone back then would have taken much much longer) and thus smaller apps as well - even a full blown GUI is not nearly as large as the Windows system -0 last I checked The latest KDE can be obtained on *CD ROM - but both Windows 7 *and* Vista came on DVDs. Now, I know you'll say that those are OSs and that there are plenty of *nix distributions on DVD - and I'll turn right back around and say that those DVDs have a *lot* more installed with them than an OOB Windows install has with it.
If your system OSs are not all that mission critically important, have a go at it and see what happens - at worst you'll need to reinstall again, at best it *might* actually work simply because this is a Beta and Windows 7 is going to be looking for multi-boot situations to deal with. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 | Windows 8 build 7989 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Calssified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX Revolution '06 PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SSD Sata II |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Internet Speed Cable - 15Mbit down / 5 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset
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