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Windows 7: Canon Digital Cameras - USB Drivers Do Not Work Through Reboots

05 Jun 2013   #71
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

My Windows Drivers Foundation is set to manual. I have never changed it. What is the default?


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05 Jun 2013   #72
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

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I am thinking it was some security update?? Searching the internet, I have read that this service leaks a bit and will start using a lot of memory, plus it is vulnerable to some types of virus threats. How true that is I don't know just what I read. -WS
Hmmm.... sounds like what was reported in the links I posted earlier. Both state they think it was an update that caused their problems.
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05 Jun 2013   #73
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Sorry; I will go away.
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05 Jun 2013   #74
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
My Windows Drivers Foundation is set to manual. I have never changed it. What is the default?
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Sorry; I will go away.
I don't know the answer to your question as I've never look at that section, thus why I didn't answer you.
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06 Jun 2013   #75
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

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!!S O L U T I O N!!
Delighted you have found the answer. This one was beginning to get under my skin. I wouldn't dare ask what route you took to get there but very well done. What a satisfying feeling you must have now! Lots of Rep to you
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06 Jun 2013   #76
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
My Windows Drivers Foundation is set to manual. I have never changed it. What is the default?
We have never changed this setting either. I think some MS security update or something that was installed changed it from AUTOMATIC to MANUAL, seems like AUTOMATIC is the default. But don't quote me, because I have no proof either way. Still researching....
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06 Jun 2013   #77
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Sorry; I will go away.
Edit: The service is: Windows Driver Foundation - User Mode Driver Framework

No need to go away, the more people we have looking at this the better. I would like to have the answers to the following questions:

#1 What is the default service start up for the service?
#2 What changed it from AUTOMATIC to *MANUAL?
#3 Why do some cameras start the service but the Canon's DO NOT?
#4 Are there security risks for the service?
#5 Can A/V software or viruses exploit the service?

* MANUAL = Start on demand for this service. We have also noted that it seems (no proof yet) that the install of IE10 and 2 or 3 reboots changes the setting from AUTOMATIC to MANUAL. We are trying to find a few machines that do not have IE10 on them to test this (fortunately or unfortunately all our machines have IE10 on them). -WS
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06 Jun 2013   #78
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Wel my Home Premium version is set to "Manual" I have definitely never touched it so I assume "Manual" to be the default. But then it besgs the question, How come some of your users have Auto set in their home computers. Very Confusing. I wouldn't have thought that an update would alter these settings but thenstranger things happen at sea!
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06 Jun 2013   #79
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar View Post
!!S O L U T I O N!!
Delighted you have found the answer. This one was beginning to get under my skin. I wouldn't dare ask what route you took to get there but very well done. What a satisfying feeling you must have now! Lots of Rep to you
A bunch of luck and days of work to figure this out. I probably should flow chart it and post it here but I am not sure I have the time or energy, this one problem set me back weeks worth of work. UGH!
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06 Jun 2013   #80
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell65 View Post
Wel my Home Premium version is set to "Manual" I have definitely never touched it so I assume "Manual" to be the default. But then it besgs the question, How come some of your users have Auto set in their home computers. Very Confusing. I wouldn't have thought that an update would alter these settings but thenstranger things happen at sea!
Do you have a Canon Camera? If so would you plug it in to a USB port, read the SD card/Picture Memory. Then unplug it and put it back. It should work. Now unplug and reboot, then plug it back in to the very same USB port and is should not work. Then start the Windows Driver Foundation - User Mode Driver Framework service and magically the camera will work, no reboot or unplug/plug needed. I would like to see if you have the same issues/symptoms. Many thanks.
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