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Windows 7: 32 Bit Monitor Driver on 64 bit machine


13 May 2014   #11

W7 Pro x64 SP1 / W8.1 Pro x64
 
 

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" ... so let's skip the obvious "did you turn the computer on" questions? I'm very sure I have pinpointed the issue, being that the hardware wasn't designed to work with a 64 bit system.
The monitor is old, there have been no drivers released for ten years and none of them were compatible with any OS past XP. Buy a new one.
Not true. I've still have some CRT monitors that still work on both 7 & 8, 64-bit.

That said. If the OP's monitor is erroring out like it is, it was probably broken when they got it. Thus the "really good deal".
It is true mate, I was only stating that no drivers have been released for ten years, not that it wouldn't work with Windows 7 when left for the OS to install it's generic PnP driver, it should. I was emphasising more to the point of it being old and probably knackered.

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13 May 2014   #12

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

This monitor was picked up at a garage sale about 3 weeks ago and I highly doubt I am entitled a refund. That said, I don't have the slightest issues when it is attached to various 32 bit machines, as the driver is automatically found and installed on older operating systems.

Initially, I had it hooked up to a KVM to switch between a 32 bit HP, but I know as soon as people in the forum read it, they'll start suggesting "oh, it's the KVM! Remove it and 'viola!' problem solved!!"... It's not the KVM, and the monitor isn't faulty by default, if it was connected to a 32 bit machine.

Yes, it's a 10 year old monitor.
Yes, I'm a cheap *******.
No, the monitor isn't faulty. It was designed for a 32 bit system, not a 64 bit system.
No, the cables are not faulty.
Yes, the drivers are completely up to date on my machine(s).
Yes, it technically works some/ most of the time, but that doesn't resolve the issue of the monitor going into safe mode whenever it wants. Occasionally it will switch itself into 1024x768, also, without rhyme or reason.

Back to the original question. Does anyone know enough about driver scripting to re-write a 32 bit monitor driver for use in a 64 bit system?
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13 May 2014   #13

Windows 7 x64 and numerous virtual machines
 
 

64 bit or 32 bit drivers for that monitor are irrelevant. It will be supported by Windows 7 Generic Plug and Play monitor driver. Make sure you have the refresh rate set to 60 hz and as you have struggled who knows what is going on in the driver department so I would uninstall any or all of them. Delete the monitor from device manager and reboot and let Windows 7 install the driver itself. Then you should be able to set it to the required resolution, I have a Philips 190S which last had drivers for 98/ME/XP and it works flawlessly under Windows 7 32 bit and 64 bit. I think you are trying to hard. You need to step back and collect your thoughts. From the manual for this model:

If the display exceeds SXGA or 75Hz, a Not Optimum Mode.
Recommended mode 1280 x 1024 60Hz message is displayed. If the display exceeds 85Hz, the display will
work properly but the "Not Optimum Mode. Recommended mode 1280x 1024 60Hz message appears
for one minute and then disappears. Please change to the recommended mode during this one-minute period.
(The message is displayed again if the system is rebooted.)
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13 May 2014   #14

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Again, and not to belabor the point, I highly doubt it's a driver issue, but rather hardware (the monitor).

As to you question, for me, no.

Good luck.
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13 May 2014   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

*sigh*

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64 bit or 32 bit drivers for that monitor are irrelevant. It will be supported by Windows 7 Generic Plug and Play monitor driver.
I'm telling you that it is and it isn't. Yes, it will display, MOST of the time. The times that it isn't, is when it's going into safe mode, or switching to 1024x768 (on reboot).

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Make sure you have the refresh rate set to 60 hz and as you have struggled who knows what is going on in the driver department so I would uninstall any or all of them. Delete the monitor from device manager and reboot and let Windows 7 install the driver itself.
I have followed these steps exactly before ever posting into this forum. I am not a noob.

The monitor has worked via the KVM when switching to the 32 bit machine (Win 7 & XP, Dual Boot, HP Pavillion a1330n, AMD 64 @ 2.13ghtz, 2gb ram) It's NOT the monitor. It's the driver.

I appreciate all the input and help from anyone offering to give it. Logic says exactly what has been suggested. "Try troubleshooting the cords and cables?", "Try deleting the windows driver and starting from scratch.", "Try the refresh rate/ resolution."

Yeah, yeah, yeah, did the normal steps to troubleshoot a driver that wasn't meant for hardware compatibility. I tried running compatibility mode. I tried putting in a different video card. I tried bios updates. I tried different cables. I went as far as trying monitor drivers that are for 64 bit monitors.

How do I explain it any other way? Yes, it's a 32 bit monitor driver that I'm trying to get working on a 64 bit machine. I need a 64 bit driver for old hardware.
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13 May 2014   #16

Dual Boot: Windows 7 Pro & Server 2012r2 VMs: Kali Linux, Backbox, Matriux, Windows 8.1
 
 

I don't want to be rude but xsy keep in mind everyone on this forum donates their time to helping people like you. Getting an attitude and not taking suggestions will get you no where..

Just my two cents.
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13 May 2014   #17

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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I don't want to be rude but xsy keep in mind everyone on this forum donates their time to helping people like you. Getting an attitude and not taking suggestions will get you no where..

Just my two cents.
Agreed, and again, I apologize for venting my frustrations. I have followed all the usual steps in troubleshooting a problem like this, and in an attempt to save everyone time in posting solutions I've already tried, I'm asking for the direct answer to the problem I've already identified before posting into this forum.

Again, I'm asking for someone who knows anything about re-writing (or writing from scratch) a 64 bit driver for a monitor that only has 32 bit drivers available, not troubleshooting steps to a problem I've already identified.

The generic pnp driver is not completely compatible for this monitor as it is 10 years old, and the 32 bit driver will not install.

I appreciate the help. I've done the troubleshooting. I've identified the problem. Now I'm waiting for the solution.
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13 May 2014   #18

Dual Boot: Windows 7 Pro & Server 2012r2 VMs: Kali Linux, Backbox, Matriux, Windows 8.1
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gator View Post
I don't want to be rude but xsy keep in mind everyone on this forum donates their time to helping people like you. Getting an attitude and not taking suggestions will get you no where..

Just my two cents.
Agreed, and again, I apologize for venting my frustrations. I have followed all the usual steps in troubleshooting a problem like this, and in an attempt to save everyone time in posting solutions I've already tried, I'm asking for the direct answer to the problem I've already identified before posting into this forum.

Again, I'm asking for someone who knows anything about re-writing (or writing from scratch) a 64 bit driver for a monitor that only has 32 bit drivers available, not troubleshooting steps to a problem I've already identified.

The generic pnp driver is not completely compatible for this monitor as it is 10 years old, and the 32 bit driver will not install.

I appreciate the help. I've done the troubleshooting. I've identified the problem. Now I'm waiting for the solution.
Unless you get lucky, that is way beyond the scope of this forum. We troubleshoot windows, I'm not even sure where you would need to look to find a place that rewrites drivers.
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13 May 2014   #19

Windows 7 x64 and numerous virtual machines
 
 

I have never known an LCD monitor NOT supported by the "Generic" driver. LCD Monitors are pretty specific and display modes are set by the LCD display panel. (Never mind about CRT's which have many modes and refresh rates). If it won't set to 1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz with the PNP driver then the monitor is faulty. The driver in Windows 7/8/Vista is driving that LCD panel and thousands of others of the same type. That is why there is no driver for it in Vista or 7 etc. When XP was released LCD were cutting edge devices so Windows did not have a built in driver. Worst case you could try a reinstall of Windows.
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13 May 2014   #20

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by xsynfulx View Post
The generic pnp driver is not completely compatible for this monitor as it is 10 years old, and the 32 bit driver will not install.
Not trying to be rude either, but you're not getting it. It's been stated by a few, and a few times, the issue may not a driver issue, it may be the monitor as the windows plug & play drivers should work for your monitor. I'm sorry if you find that answer unacceptable but it is what it is.

Also, just because those drivers won't install, doesn't mean Window's Plug & Play drivers won't work. They clearly working or else you wouldn't get video. And the fact that the monitor runs in it's native resolution of 1280 x 1024 says it's working. The issue is it keeps erroring out, which could also indicate the monitor itself is defective.

That said, try this to see if the drivers will install....

Unzip the contents of the driver package…
  • Go to device manager and right click on your monitor…
  • Click Update Driver Software
  • Choose browse my computer and locate the folder where you extracted the files
  • Click next and those drivers should install. You’ll know if the device manager lists your monitor.
Speaking of device manager… have you checked it to see ifyour monitor is actually listed there already? If so, the drivers are installed.

You’ve also not answered the question as to updating yourvideo card drivers???

We are trying to help but you keep dismissing what were telling you.
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