Is there any way to make my mouse driver boot sooner on start up?  

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    Is there any way to make my mouse driver boot sooner on start up?


    I have a Razer mouse and keyboard, and I have to say, as much as I love the devices to death, the Synapse 2.0 drivers are horrendous. That is one area where I think Cyborg takes the prize. My DPI goes up to 8200, but I only use it at around 1800 when I'm not gaming or working on computer animation work. One of the problems with the driver is that the driver is only running if Synapse is running. That means when synapse is off, my mouse runs full 8200, which I almost never do, even when gaming. Maybe id go as high as 5000 at some times.

    It seams like EVERYTHING loads before the Razer Synapse 2.0 service. It will take sometimes 3 or 4 minutes before my mouse isn't moving a thousand miles an hour.

    Maybe moving it up on the start order, if that would even work, or help, is the wrong way of going about it, but its all I can think of. I am open to other suggestions. In the mean time, I am curious if there is a way to make it one of the first things to load so that less important things like google drive, media fire, or snagit arent made priority over it. Like I said though, if someone has more experience with issues like this, I am all ears, or, eyes as the case might be.

    I appreciate the help.
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    Hiyya Thornton so you are talking of the boot in the Start up (msconfig)?
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    ICit2lol said:
    Hiyya Thornton so you are talking of the boot in the Start up (msconfig)?
    Yes, I do believe so. I checked MSConf and the Synapse driver is set to run on startup, as it should, but like I said, It might very well be the LAST thing to start, or at least it seems like it is. Perhaps it is starting first and the application just takes that long to load, but to be honest, it seems like a service that should have already started opening before you log in, not 60 seconds after.
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    Oops I got that wrong eh? I should have said Start up eh?

    Now as a rule I start with an absolute minimum on the Start up tab I set mine to the OS and Microsoft Intelli (keyboard) stuff. On my other machines where the security is listed (have no idea why it is not on this one) I include that.

    Now you might just try having the mouse only set on start up - worth a try and nothing to lose if you are concerned re security then set it the OS has to start anyway:)

    I shall be offline in just a few minutes so if I don't answer quickly it will mean I am travelling back to where I am staying.
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    ICit2lol said:
    Oops I got that wrong eh? I should have said Start up eh?

    Now as a rule I start with an absolute minimum on the Start up tab I set mine to the OS and Microsoft Intelli (keyboard) stuff. On my other machines where the security is listed (have no idea why it is not on this one) I include that.

    Now you might just try having the mouse only set on start up - worth a try and nothing to lose if you are concerned re security then set it the OS has to start anyway:)

    I shall be offline in just a few minutes so if I don't answer quickly it will mean I am travelling back to where I am staying.
    Thank you for the suggestion. I dont even want to imagine what applications wont work right, but I kicked out all of my updaters, adobe, apple, and akami net stuff from start up. It is certainly a lot fewer start up apps so hopefully that at least helps. I am kindof curious why boot takes so long, though, to be honest. I know I am only using a 7200 RPM drive, for now, and when I upgrade to a solid state, it will help, but I have a very powerful processor and plenty of ram... I wonder why this is even an issue and its not loading faster, regardless of service priority.
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    Well Thornton I have a fairly decent Ivy set up and I clock the RAM to 2400(max it will go to) and the i5 K to 4.2 and I have admittedly a SSD for the boot and it is reallyquick. That board - an Asus P8Z77 - V is a lot less featured than your board, and personally I think your best bet is a SSD and clock the machine a bit.

    I also use this my favourite tutorial which I find particularly good.

    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11728-optimize-windows-7-a.html

    Now it may sound a bit too obvious but I think a scan with these might be in order and to eliminate those possibilties

    http://www.superantispyware.com/

    http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free/

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/

    download from bleeping computer – delete any rubbishthese find.

    I am wondering and am assuming here that you use CCleaner? if not the it will hasten things up too and just in case you don't use it when you scan and go to clean up go to Options and then cookies - be sure to save the cookies that you have to sites you have a password (login) for:)
    https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download



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    ICit2lol said:
    Well Thornton I have a fairly decent Ivy set up and I clock the RAM to 2400(max it will go to) and the i5 K to 4.2 and I have admittedly a SSD for the boot and it is reallyquick. That board - an Asus P8Z77 - V is a lot less featured than your board, and personally I think your best bet is a SSD and clock the machine a bit.

    I also use this my favourite tutorial which I find particularly good.

    https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11728-optimize-windows-7-a.html

    Now it may sound a bit too obvious but I think a scan with these might be in order and to eliminate those possibilties

    http://www.superantispyware.com/

    http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free/

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/

    download from bleeping computer – delete any rubbishthese find.

    I am wondering and am assuming here that you use CCleaner? if not the it will hasten things up too and just in case you don't use it when you scan and go to clean up go to Options and then cookies - be sure to save the cookies that you have to sites you have a password (login) for:)
    https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download


    Thanks for the suggestions. I love MSE and MBam so those were a few of the first things I did, but I like this optimization list a lot. There were a few things in there I already did but a lot I didn't even realize I could do, or maybe I did but didn't realize it could benefit performance.

    Ill try it out. Thanks!
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    also, I do not use CCleaner, but I have been on edge whether or not to give it a try for a while. I hear some people say it works wonders... otherrs say dont use it, it can seriously F up your registry and UI .dlls... others say they never have any problems and it works wonders... Do you have any specific suggestions of what I do with it that might be of benefit me?
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    Sorry late reply mate CCleaner is fine mate the only thing is like I said when you go Options before you run the cleaner you need to highlight the cookies that are used for the sites you have passwords for - you can see what I save in my pic.
    The registry you can scan and save the results to a Documents and they can be merged back in afterwards if anything goes south. It is not a final and non repairable thing to do. Those who say it wrecks the registry obviously don't do that and so they end up with problems. I and many others run this program run this program on a regular basis and speaking for myself I have never had a problem with it.
    So I can only advise you to do what you feel happy with but seriously you would have to be reckless to muck up the machine with CC.
    CCleaner - Delete Junk Files < you need to add what I have just said to save those cookies or you will be forever entering user ID and password for sites. Anyway see my pic - this is after the Analyse has been run and you click on Options > cookies .
    Once you get used to it - it becomes second nature and you will be surprised how much junk you have on the machine that is being loaded without you knowing and it really isn't needed lie a cookie for say Jo Blow stores.com that you might have visited once and will never again - it still is being loaded!
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    ICit2lol said:
    Sorry late reply mate CCleaner is fine mate the only thing is like I said when you go Options before you run the cleaner you need to highlight the cookies that are used for the sites you have passwords for - you can see what I save in my pic.
    The registry you can scan and save the results to a Documents and they can be merged back in afterwards if anything goes south. It is not a final and non repairable thing to do. Those who say it wrecks the registry obviously don't do that and so they end up with problems. I and many others run this program run this program on a regular basis and speaking for myself I have never had a problem with it.
    So I can only advise you to do what you feel happy with but seriously you would have to be reckless to muck up the machine with CC.
    CCleaner - Delete Junk Files < you need to add what I have just said to save those cookies or you will be forever entering user ID and password for sites. Anyway see my pic - this is after the Analyse has been run and you click on Options > cookies .
    Once you get used to it - it becomes second nature and you will be surprised how much junk you have on the machine that is being loaded without you knowing and it really isn't needed lie a cookie for say Jo Blow stores.com that you might have visited once and will never again - it still is being loaded!
    Your alright. I ran CCleaner and ir worked beautifully. I ran the registry cleaner also. It did cause problems with applications to I used the backup I made of my reg to revert back. I also ran cookie cleaner and that helped a little. I also popped open my bios (luv you ASUS!) and set my I7 4790k from standard boot time to turbo-boost boot. I also looked at the optimization list you gave me. I appreciate the helpful link. I did not do everything on it, though. Call me a little vain if you want but I have a thing for aesthetic appeal (Im a computer animation student. My love for good looking GUIs is justified. Haha). My boot times might still be a little longer than id like, unfortunately, but canning a few of the animations and boot animation helped a bit. After all is said and done, its a little hit and miss whether Synapse actually loads faster or not, but when it does load faster, which it didn't do at all prior to this, it shaves off about 15-30 seconds out off the normal minute to minute and a half.

    Because the drivers success is dependent on this application loading, I can tell that a low latency SSD would benefit me greatly. I am looking at a few Corsair ones right now, but I might have to wait to order it until after my move to Orlando to start my college classes. If I ordered today, it might take 3 days to ship but I don't know that I feel comfortable risking it or not when my move is less than 2 weeks away. Maybe. We'll see.

    I appreciate all the great, successful help, and if there is anything else that you or anyone ever thinks to add, please, I am interested in at least hearing it.

    In the mean time, I am going to read up on how to clone windows to a SSD and how to set the majority of less comonly used applications data from Program Files, Program Files (x86) and app data to be pulled from my HDD, to conserve space on the SSD.
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