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Windows 7: ShellFolderFix - Manage folder window positions/size


13 May 2010   #201

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tweaker View Post
Does it work if you double-click on the shortcut?

I've never tried opening a shortcut through the right-click menu, will have to try that tomorrow and see if there's any difference.

It does sound like you're experiencing a deadlock issue with SFF. Killing the SFF process when that happens could possibly also resolve the situation, in case you haven't tried that. Not sure why it's happening, from what I remember no one else has reported that kind of problems.

You mentioned that "open each folder in a new process" slows down noticably, so I assume your computer isn't.. how do I put this nicely.. too powerful? Maybe there's some undiscovered issue that happens on less powerful setups. I'll have to see if I can somehow simulate such a situation, unless it turns out that the right-click menu is the source of the problem.
Double-clicking the folder shortcut opens the folder as expected.

I haven't tried killing SFF while the lock-up was in progress. The shell isn't generally working to well at that point and some things aren't possible - I'll try to kill it and get back to you with the results (I'm back on my XP machine at the moment).

As for less powerful machine - It's an Intel core i7 920 - when I said 'slows down noticeably' I should probably have said there's a perceptibly longer delay as the window opens - about the same as the time it takes SFF to move a window from it's opened to where SFF knows it's really supposed to be. It's still very quick, however, and that's the workaround I'll use until and if there's a fix available.

Thanks for the quick response! Like your tool, hearing back so quickly is a pleasant surprise.

Robert

Am I missing a forum setting somewhere? I'm having to type html breaks in order to keep everything from running together. First time that's happened to me in any forum, so far.

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13 May 2010   #202

Win 7 Pro 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by robertwallace View Post
I create a shortcut on the Desktop to a folder on a harddrive (right-click-the-folder -- drag-to-desktop -- create-shortcut-here.) If I right-click on the folder shortcut on the Desktop and select 'Open folder location', the first time, maybe two, it might work and open the containing folder. After that, it will pop up the outline of the folder window and then hang, never filling in the contents.
I just tried this and get the same result. If I double click the shortcut it works fine but right click and 'Open folder location' it hangs and I have to close Explorer.

It doesn't really effect me as I never open a folder that way and I'm not getting any other issues.

Just thought I'd pass it on.
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13 May 2010   #203

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

[reporting back]

Killing SFF while the 'hang' is in progress doesn't release the hang. Only restarting Windows Explorer (with SFF not running) restores the shell to normal operation.

[hmm - seems my problem with message formatting in the forum has cleared up. Line breaks with the Enter key are working, now.]

Robert
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13 May 2010   #204

Windows 7 - 64, Windows XP
 
 

I tried that too, and the problem reported by robertwallace exists also for me. Only that after the explorer restart I can open some folders, and other ones I can't (about 50/50).

And if anyone is interested, my problem has been solved. Tweaker made some debug versions for me and we have tracked the problem down (it was an internal explorer name, that has been translated in Polish version if Win 7 (but apparently not in other non-English versions), and SFF couldn't properly detect uninitialized windows because of that).
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13 May 2010   #205

w7-64, w2k
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by robertwallace View Post
As for less powerful machine - It's an Intel core i7 920 - when I said 'slows down noticeably' I should probably have said there's a perceptibly longer delay as the window opens
Ah same as mine, which is good because reproducing the bug is more likely.

I managed to reproduce it, and yes it's the context menu open folder location thing that triggered the issue. Thanks Protium and kazink for confirming.

I've fixed the bug, a new version will be released shortly (as in today or tomorrow-ish if nothing else pops up).
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13 May 2010   #206

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tweaker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by robertwallace View Post
As for less powerful machine - It's an Intel core i7 920 - when I said 'slows down noticeably' I should probably have said there's a perceptibly longer delay as the window opens
Ah same as mine, which is good because reproducing the bug is more likely.

I managed to reproduce it, and yes it's the context menu open folder location thing that triggered the issue. Thanks Protium and kazink for confirming.

I've fixed the bug, a new version will be released shortly (as in today or tomorrow-ish if nothing else pops up).
Excellent! Glad I could contribute to the development process by finding a bug.

I'll be waiting enthusiastically for the next release but, really, it's already a very nice piece of work!

Robert
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14 May 2010   #207

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 
Thanks a million!

WOW! I am SO glad I found this tool, I really LOVE it!!

The extra features you added are awesome and SO useful! Especially how the windows adjust their size as you go backwards and forwards- without having to open them in a new window. It's fantastic.

Thank you so much!


This is probably completely out of the scope of what you're thinking about doing but there are two features that I've been dreaming of for quite some time now.
The first one was at one point (might still be) a Macintosh feature.
1. A button with "Minimize" Maximize" & "Close" which I would call "Optimize" which changes the window's size/shape in order to get eliminate both scroll bars if possible, or at least one.
2. A button (or an on/off feature) that would move/snap the window (and possibly adjacent ones) so that it does not overlap other windows and (possibly) align the top or side, or if the screen is filled with open windows let them begin to snap into a cascade pattern.

I'm sure that would require a whole LOT of code which is probably somewhat unrelated to what you're working on; but I figured it can't hurt to throw it out here. Maybe someone else will do something with it or let me know about something already out there that does one or both of those things!

Thanks again man!
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16 May 2010   #208

w7-64, w2k
 
 

v1.1.3 is available now.


Changes:
- fixed folder tracking bug with (some or many?) non-english Windows versions,
which could cause some windows to open with wrong size/position
- fixed explorer deadlock bug that often happened when using "Open folder location"
from the context menu
- fixed small (and rare) mis-positioning issue with desktop icon restore
- added confirmation dialogs for desktop icons save/restore, to reduce the risks
of accidently picking the wrong one
- added option for temporarily enabling extended display times of help tooltips
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16 May 2010   #209

w7-64, w2k
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JonPattrsn75 View Post
I'm sure that would require a whole LOT of code which is probably somewhat unrelated to what you're working on
I can keep an eye out, but unfortunately yes I think you're right, it seems like it would somewhat out of the scope of the app.
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16 May 2010   #210

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tweaker View Post
v1.1.3 is available now.


Changes:
- fixed folder tracking bug with (some or many?) non-english Windows versions,
which could cause some windows to open with wrong size/position
- fixed explorer deadlock bug that often happened when using "Open folder location"
from the context menu
- fixed small (and rare) mis-positioning issue with desktop icon restore
- added confirmation dialogs for desktop icons save/restore, to reduce the risks
of accidently picking the wrong one
- added option for temporarily enabling extended display times of help tooltips
Thanks Georg - Explorer deadlock bug has been fixed (smashed to a gooey mess and tossed in the bin.)

Robert
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