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Windows 7: GTA IV max settings

08 Aug 2010   #21

Windows 7 Enterprise
 
 

These are settings I play "GTA IV - The Ballad of Gay Tony." Shadows and view distance are the only ones not maxed out. Frames I get range from 30, to average of 41, to as high as 60, monitored with Fraps.

EDIT: Some proper testing.

Min Max Avg
35 ,57 ,47.65

Min Max Avg
30 ,56 ,45.483

Min Max Avg
31 ,56 ,46.3

Min Max Avg
34 ,56 ,47.433



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08 Aug 2010   #22

W7 RTM Ultimate x64
 
 

Just having a look around, i found this.

It worked for me
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08 Aug 2010   #23

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dampkring View Post
Well, thanx a lot for all the info

I have a Samsung 740bf 17" screen for the moment but I will upgrade to a 19" soon, that's why I prefered choose the HD 5970. Btw, any suggestions for a good 19" monitor? I heard ViewSonic are very nice for games.
yep ViewSonic is very nice. i just upgraded to one and am very satisfied.
btw you can start here by doing some research. under product face-offs click on "lcd computer monitor".
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Many professionals, also friends told me that Ghz don't really do the difference because it depends on the CPU build.
AMD and Intel Ghz are never equal, like an AMD chip operating at 2.8GHz would process data faster than an Intel chip running at 4.0GHz...
thing is those 6 cores you got will not be always fully utilised... for example game uses only 1 or 2 or 3 max (like GTAIV) and those few utilised cores by them selves can't feed your powerful gpu because they got less MHz then cpus with fewer cores. if game uses all cores than it's awesome.

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I first decided to upgrade my computer for StarCraft II (to run all on ultra), but I was tempted to finally get GTA IV because I'm a fan, so I guess I will wait a little longer before I buy GTA IV on PC, it seems really to be very bad optimized for nowadays hardware, pity... because it's kinda a lying advertise for the PC version, if it can't run well with these extra settings...
you could wait forever. because it looks like in the near future there will not be any performance updates.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Is that really true?

So me running my GTA4 at 800x600 res is basically being run by the CPU?

I have all my settings to the lowest it can go, all the bars set at 1, and running 800x600 @ 60MHZ, and the best FPS i can get is like 40, and it also varies on whats going on in the game, like rain ill go down to like 20-15 fps... :/
basically at such a low resolution your cpu is idling because gpu is too slow to process all that gfx.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rixto003 View Post
urs 40 normally and 20-15 is like a dream for me, i get about 3 max and on rainy days its 10 or less... had to complete the game with weather cheat :S
ahh classic transparency slowdown. slow graphic card. upgrade.
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08 Aug 2010   #24

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dampkring View Post
I heard ViewSonic are very nice for games.
Viewsonic has a good rep. For games, a monitor with a low ms response time is one of the things you need to look for.

Monitors with a high response time have a 'lag input' feel to them (a noticeable delay between moving the mouse and the movement on the screen) - but it's something that you can become used to quite easily. Some don't even notice it at all.

Although older LCD's and those with really high response times can also suffer from 'ghosting'. That's when you make a movement and there is a slight 'ghost' of the movement. That is noticeable.

For example, my monitors have a few different modes.

The 'normal' modes have a "6ms" response time which is perfectly acceptable. There is no ghosting, but I can discern the input lag. It does become apparent when I switch to Game mode which has a "0ms" response time, you can instantly notice how much more 'snappy and responsive' it feels.

But in either setting, it doesn't really detract from the experience.


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Many professionals, also friends told me that Ghz don't really do the difference because it depends on the CPU build.
AMD and Intel Ghz are never equal, like an AMD chip operating at 2.8GHz would process data faster than an Intel chip running at 4.0GHz...
To a certain degree that is correct, depending on the model. One advantage some newer AMD chips have are that they tend to have a better 'higher average minimum framerate' than intel chips, even highly clocked ones.

That's one reason that makes them good for gaming, despite being noticeably slower at other tasks.

But a higher hz is always beneficial, regardless of architecture.



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I first decided to upgrade my computer for StarCraft II (to run all on ultra), but I was tempted to finally get GTA IV because I'm a fan, so I guess I will wait a little longer before I buy GTA IV on PC, it seems really to be very bad optimized for nowadays hardware, pity... because it's kinda a lying advertise for the PC version, if it can't run well with these extra settings...
One thing that GTA IV engine does reasonably well is that it scales pretty well in the image quality area.

Sure, there is a noticeable difference between max IQ and low settings, but compared to some games - it isn't absolutely butt ugly on low. And with that chip and a 5870, you won't have to go low.

It's also quite 'playable' at low framerates to a certain degree. Although sub 20fps is brutal...

You will be able to find a compromise between IQ and playability. So despite it's flaws, don't let it put you off buying it.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Uber Philf View Post

Is that really true?

So me running my GTA4 at 800x600 res is basically being run by the CPU?

I have all my settings to the lowest it can go, all the bars set at 1, and running 800x600 @ 60MHZ, and the best FPS i can get is like 40, and it also varies on whats going on in the game, like rain ill go down to like 20-15 fps... :/
'fraid so. At that res, your card is basically twiddling it's thumbs
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08 Aug 2010   #25

Windows 7 Ultimate x64.
 
 

I might dig it out and see what it's performing like now. The last time I had it installed it was was up to v1.04 but it looks like it's up to v1.07 now.

It had the potential to be a brilliant game but sadly rockstar suck at porting games or just don't give a toss knowing most will buy it because of it's title.
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08 Aug 2010   #26

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits
 
 

Yea my Samsung is at 2ms and is pretty good, I found this one: ViewSonic VA926 19", but with only 5ms, good enough? I didn't found a 19" ViewSonic lower than 5ms though...

Oh I forgot to ask if this PSU is suitable for my specs: Hiper Type-R II 880W
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08 Aug 2010   #27

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AllMac View Post
These are settings I play "GTA IV - The Ballad of Gay Tony." Shadows and view distance are the only ones not maxed out. Frames I get range from 30, to average of 41, to as high as 60, monitored with Fraps.

EDIT: Some proper testing.

Min Max Avg
35 ,57 ,47.65

Min Max Avg
30 ,56 ,45.483

Min Max Avg
31 ,56 ,46.3

Min Max Avg
34 ,56 ,47.433

What mod you using there all mac? police cars looks kinda cool
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08 Aug 2010   #28

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dampkring View Post
Yea my Samsung is at 2ms and is pretty good, I found this one: ViewSonic VA926 19", but with only 5ms, good enough? I didn't found a 19" ViewSonic lower than 5ms though...
there are lots of confusion about all those timings... every manufacturer writes what he wants. from what i was researching: 2 ms is gray to gray and 5 ms is black to black. so different measurements.

btw there are 19" 2ms ViewSonics... for example this one and this.
for gaming you need their gaming range that model name starts with VX.... they have 2ms.

VA926 is VA value range. so its main point is that it's cheap.

mine is VG and it is multimedia range display. it has 5ms "typical" response time (writen in spec sheet). by researching i found out that it has CMO LCD panel with 120hz refresh rate. and games and movies are without ghosting and lag.
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08 Aug 2010   #29

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits
 
 

Is there a way to get a 19" 2ms without widescreen, are the entire gaming monitors in ws now?
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08 Aug 2010   #30

Windows 7 Enterprise
 
 

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What mod you using there all mac? police cars looks kinda cool
You mean because it looks pink?

I'm not using any mods. I'm playing the 2nd expansion to GTA IV (Ballad of Gay Tony) and they made it look like that. You play as a different character for a gay businessman.
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