Team Fortress 2 issues

solarnoise · May 22, 2009

Hi everyone,
I know TF2 has been discussed but I have a few particular issues and wanted to see if anyone else is getting them...my specs are in my signature.

Installed Steam and TF2...not using compatibility mode. The game loads fine, albeit a little more "flickery" than in Vista.

In the game I get frequent lag spikes and stuttering. Even on servers with 40 or less latency (which is low for me), I sometimes get a freeze and it says it lost connection.

Also, no matter at what resolution, even my native 1680x1050, the game runs sub-par. All the other games I have installed run fine, including internet games.

Anyone else getting the lag, stuttering, and network drops?

XeRo · May 22, 2009

That had more to do with your network than your OS. Sounds to me like you are on some really crappy servers. I have seen server latency be great but you plan and hit lag spikes. It all depends on what you are downloading and what your ping is. If your ping is high check what you are downloading/torrenting...ever little bit hurts.

solarnoise · May 31, 2009

XeRo, appreciate the reply but I think it is a driver issue.

I am using the same servers I was using on Vista x64... servers in my general area, with latencies of 50ms or less (not ideal latency, but it is the best I can find and worked great on Vista)

Now I get frame rate stuttering, and I have the problem where players appear to "teleport" around a bit, meaning there is some serious lag going on. Seeing as how my main class is sniper, this does not bode well for my kill count =P

I tried changing resolutions and lowering all settings, something I never had to do with Vista... my GTX260 card has always handled this game at highest settings. Even with lowered graphics settings I still get the choppy frames, and the occasional server disconnect.

Oddly enough, I also play World of Warcraft, another network intensive game, and though my frames took a very small hit, I do not generally have any issues with connectivity.

DarkXeno · May 31, 2009

This may sound odd but make sure you have the latest audio drivers too. I had a problem with steam on a few old games but once i updated the sound drivers it went away.

Snippers · Jun 1, 2009

I can confirm I have this too, it pulls the entire computer to lag/freeze up its not a total freeze but everything goes slow (32 bit win 7 RC), I think this began happen on the (beta 7000) as well, but not at first, I also get the same problems with Zombie Panic Source which is a mod that uses the orange box framework. And nothing to do with connection to the best of knowledge I have got the latest audio drivers too my system:
laptop, 1.82ghz dual core T5600, 2gb Ram, 320gb HD, ATI Radeon X1600 mobile series (resolution 1280*800).

Dutcher · Jun 1, 2009

I am having this problem as well. I played using the same hardware with max settings when I was running XP, no problems. Now, when in matches with a lot of players, I get some jerkiness that sometimes looks like network lag and sometimes like my FPS is dipping really low.

Core 2 Duo 2.56 Ghz
4GB RAM
Radeon HD 4870
Creative X-Fi xtremegamer SC

I've got the Windows 7 beta drivers installed for my GC and SC.

jstafford82 · Jun 3, 2009

I can confirm this as well. Its really messed up, and you have no idea what trouble I went through before I checked these boards. I agree it seems to look and feel like lag, but Ill be on servers with a steady 9-11 ping, and people will still jump around. I thought it was a router problem, because I just got a new gamer-lounge d-link router...and I installed it as I installed win7rc..but I plugged in the old one and same problem. I formatted, same problem, updated audio, video, bios...everything, same problem. I did not have any problem at all with win7beta...it started with the rc....I also have a decently beasty machine, and I tested out fraps, and I sync every frame and I never dip below 60fps. Its weird..so Im assuming it is some sort of network lag, but I dont know enough to know why the rc is causing it....Ill let you know when I stop feeling its effects!

i7 920 Quad OCed to 3.5ghz (and a nice heat sink!)
6gb ddr3 ram
nvidia evga 1gb 285

Snippers · Jun 7, 2009

There are two things I have done to improve the situation as well as FPS
a) Disable the Windows Media Player network service was using, this caused peroidical lag resource spikes 40% CPU for a good 30 seconds or so :/, I don't even use windows media player so I have no clue what it was doing
b) Disable indexing on my harddrives, and then disabling the windows search service which runs in the background and was using ~1-10% of the CPU
doing both things has certainly improved performance

KRONie · Jun 7, 2009

The laughing man?

dmex · Jun 7, 2009

Snippers said:
There are two things I have done to improve the situation as well as FPS
a) Disable the Windows Media Player network service was using, this caused peroidical lag resource spikes 40% CPU for a good 30 seconds or so :/, I don't even use windows media player so I have no clue what it was doing
b) Disable indexing on my harddrives, and then disabling the windows search service which runs in the background and was using ~1-10% of the CPU
doing both things has certainly improved performance

The WMP Network service is not used or started unless your watching streaming media from the Internet, Indexing/Windows Search only runs when your machine is idle.

jstafford82 said:
I can confirm this as well. Its really messed up, and you have no idea what trouble I went through before I checked these boards. I agree it seems to look and feel like lag, but Ill be on servers with a steady 9-11 ping, and people will still jump around. I thought it was a router problem, because I just got a new gamer-lounge d-link router...and I installed it as I installed win7rc..but I plugged in the old one and same problem. I formatted, same problem, updated audio, video, bios...everything, same problem. I did not have any problem at all with win7beta...it started with the rc....I also have a decently beasty machine, and I tested out fraps, and I sync every frame and I never dip below 60fps. Its weird..so Im assuming it is some sort of network lag, but I dont know enough to know why the rc is causing it....Ill let you know when I stop feeling its effects!

i7 920 Quad OCed to 3.5ghz (and a nice heat sink!)
6gb ddr3 ram
nvidia evga 1gb 285

Since the Sniper vs Spy update, I have read thousands of complaints to Valve's HLDS list about frequent lag spikes, stuttering and about many users getting "lost connections" caused by the update, Your not alone as it happening to me and many other in Australia too so we can only wait for Valve to re-patch the servers to fix these issues that we are seeing on our machines :shock:

jstafford82 · Jun 8, 2009

Awesome, thanks for checking. Although it sucks that you guys experience the lag too, its kinda comforting to know its not just me!

SoCGHOST · Jun 9, 2009

I have the same issues, and I can tell you it has everything to do with the os. I run W7 on one harddrive and run XP on the other. When I boot into XP the game plays great and FPS / Ping is fine, under W7 everything is spiking, fps and ping.

KRONie · Jun 9, 2009

hmm, that's odd.. i just started noticing FPS skips too.. never had that before. Gonna try running Vsync next time. see if it helps.

slyr114 · Jun 9, 2009

i too have this issue its so freaking annoying i am going to backstab someone and my game lets me actually do the motion of stabbing and the sniper is stuck in like a loop or walk in place cause my network is like stutering

yohan · Jun 10, 2009

I had this issue from before. It is something to do with the config.cfg file and the variables it holds not being happy about windows 7. When I deleted it (the game will create another one) it worked fine. It's in steamapps/team fortress 2/tf/cfg/

sotorious · Nov 17, 2009

haha months later and this issues still continues ._.

yohan · Nov 17, 2009

I am using Win7 RTM x64 now, did you do what I said? It completely fixed my issues.

sotorious · Nov 17, 2009

yea deleting the cfg

yohan · Nov 17, 2009

Try renaming the entire TF2 folder, and restarting Steam. Then try!

sotorious · Nov 17, 2009

yohan said:
Try renaming the entire TF2 folder, and restarting Steam. Then try!

like the whole folder?

and renaming it to what??

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