| Windows 7: Poor Gaming Performance |
26 Nov 2010
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Poor Gaming Performance Would anybody have a clue as to why my gaming performance is so poor? I've just installed a new GTX 580 and to my surprise Crysis is incredibly laggy. Even on just high settings at 1080p there is enough stuttering and lag to make the game very unenjoyable, almost unplayable. I've attached the results from a FRAPS benchmark (run on very high settings with no AA) and would like to know what others think. It worth noting that even when FRAPS is reporting fair numbers (30+) the game still seems to lock up. Is it possible the CPU is bottlenecking the whole system as I haven't overclocked it from the standard 2.67GHz?
Maybe on a related note I am having troubles with massive flickering of the light effects in GTA IV EFLC (street lights, break lights, signs etc) and although I seem to have gotten the game to run lag free almost all the time, I get sudden moments every so often, where the whole thing locks up for a 1-1.5 secs? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Core i7 3930K @Stock Motherboard Asus Rampage IV Extreme Memory G.SKILL Z 1600Mhz 16GB Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 580 Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2409W Screen Resolution 1920x1080p Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case CM Storm Trooper Cooling Corsair H100 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB, Western Digital WD6400AAKS (X2) Other Info HITACHI/LG BH20N Blu-ray Rewriter |
26 Nov 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 Laguna Hills Southern California |
could be the onboard video is enabled check your bios
I would like to point out the drivers may not be fully operatable yet see if they have a update
looking at your psu is it 850 watt? if so that is not a issue there that is more then enough to power it | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me FX - Series Scorpious OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1 CPU Vishera FX 8350 Oc' 4.812Ghz 1.488 V-core full load 50c Motherboard Asus Sabertooth 990fx rev 2.0 Memory 16gb Corsair Vengeance ram 1600mhz Oc'ed to 1750mhz Graphics Card VisionTek HD7970 Ghz.ed Bios Crossfire 1150/1560 power 10% Sound Card AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 27" ViewSonic 1920/1080dp hdmi 37in vizio hdmi dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1080 27"- 1920x1080 37" Keyboard Logitech wireless keyboard Mouse Logitech wireless mouse PSU HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli Case Thermaltake Element V Cooling Antec 620 Water cooling system and 4 120 mm LED fans Hard Drives Ocz Agility 120Gb SSD Seagate baracuda 500 Gb WD Mybook 500Gb Internet Speed Cable 25+ mb Antivirus WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus Browser IE-9, Chrome, Opera Other Info I have 2 systems FX AM3+ 8350-K15 Oc'ed 4.812Ghz AM2+ 965 BE Stock 3.4 Ghz Both stable Both Gaming Rigs Also Hp Notebook 1.65 ghz Dual core amd E-450 8gb Patriot Ram DDR3 Discrete Gpu Hd6320 dedicated ram 1973 mb 15.5 screen |
26 Nov 2010
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Did you run driver sweeper to remove your previous cards drivers completely prior to installing the 580? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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26 Nov 2010
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My board is without onboard graphics. yea the psu is an AX850 pretty top notch really.
cheers for helping | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Core i7 3930K @Stock Motherboard Asus Rampage IV Extreme Memory G.SKILL Z 1600Mhz 16GB Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 580 Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2409W Screen Resolution 1920x1080p Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case CM Storm Trooper Cooling Corsair H100 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB, Western Digital WD6400AAKS (X2) Other Info HITACHI/LG BH20N Blu-ray Rewriter |
26 Nov 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball Did you run driver sweeper to remove your previous cards drivers completely prior to installing the 580?
Yes always do.
btw I''ve just replaced my 4870x2 with this GTX 580, as things were atrocious with that as well...strangely Crysis performance was better but GTA IV was worse (both were still bad tough)? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Core i7 3930K @Stock Motherboard Asus Rampage IV Extreme Memory G.SKILL Z 1600Mhz 16GB Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 580 Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2409W Screen Resolution 1920x1080p Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case CM Storm Trooper Cooling Corsair H100 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB, Western Digital WD6400AAKS (X2) Other Info HITACHI/LG BH20N Blu-ray Rewriter |
26 Nov 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by TacticalTimbo Would anybody have a clue as to why my gaming performance is so poor? I've just installed a new GTX 580 and to my surprise Crysis is incredibly laggy. Even on just high settings at 1080p there is enough stuttering and lag to make the game very unenjoyable, almost unplayable. I've attached the results from a FRAPS benchmark (run on very high settings with no AA) and would like to know what others think. It worth noting that even when FRAPS is reporting fair numbers (30+) the game still seems to lock up. Is it possible the CPU is bottlenecking the whole system as I haven't overclocked it from the standard 2.67GHz?
Maybe on a related note I am having troubles with massive flickering of the light effects in GTA IV EFLC (street lights, break lights, signs etc) and although I seem to have gotten the game to run lag free almost all the time, I get sudden moments every so often, where the whole thing locks up for a 1-1.5 secs? Very weird indeed.
A GTX 580 should murder Crysis.
Here's a to-do list for ya: - Make sure Crysis is patched to the latest build (I remember Crysis having some issues with 64 bit OS'es a while back)
- Make sure you uninstalled your previous GPU drivers correctly (more so if your previous card was an AMD card, there's a nice little guide over @ NVIDIA's forums)
- Flash your motherboard's BIOS
- Run different stress tests on your GPU (just to make sure everything is nice and stable, [Furmark, etc])
- Remove any CPU/GPU overclocks.
EDIT: Couple more things:
Try disabling NVIDIA's HD Audio devices via Device Manager.
Here: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=586183
Also, try uninstalling 3D Vision drivers.
EDIT #2 lol:
Download DPC Latency checker: http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
Run it in the background while gaming to see if there are any drop-outs in your latency. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-2500K Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW Sound Card ASUS Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG P2070 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech K300 Black Mouse Genius on Steelseries 4HD Gaming pad PSU Corsair TX950W Case Corsair Obsidian 650D Cooling Thermaltake Frío Hard Drives WD Caviar Blue Other Info Headphones: Sennheiser HD-515 |
26 Nov 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy 
Quote: Originally Posted by TacticalTimbo Would anybody have a clue as to why my gaming performance is so poor? I've just installed a new GTX 580 and to my surprise Crysis is incredibly laggy. Even on just high settings at 1080p there is enough stuttering and lag to make the game very unenjoyable, almost unplayable. I've attached the results from a FRAPS benchmark (run on very high settings with no AA) and would like to know what others think. It worth noting that even when FRAPS is reporting fair numbers (30+) the game still seems to lock up. Is it possible the CPU is bottlenecking the whole system as I haven't overclocked it from the standard 2.67GHz?
Maybe on a related note I am having troubles with massive flickering of the light effects in GTA IV EFLC (street lights, break lights, signs etc) and although I seem to have gotten the game to run lag free almost all the time, I get sudden moments every so often, where the whole thing locks up for a 1-1.5 secs? Very weird indeed.
A GTX 580 should murder Crysis.
Here's a to-do list for ya: - Make sure Crysis is patched to the latest build (I remember Crysis having some issues with 64 bit OS'es a while back)
- Make sure you uninstalled your previous GPU drivers correctly (more so if your previous card was an AMD card, there's a nice little guide over @ NVIDIA's forums)
- Flash your motherboard's BIOS
- Run different stress tests on your GPU (just to make sure everything is nice and stable, [Furmark, etc])
- Remove any CPU/GPU overclocks.
latency. Just to reply to this bit:
1. Yes got the latest patches
2. Yes uninstalled old drivers and went over with DriverSweeper
3. Just tried again but same result, when I flash my BIOS to the latest (1108) it won't let me have X.M.P memory profiles on without the PC blue-screening right after the Windows is Starting logo and restarting. (with X.M.P off it loads up fine).
4. Done prime95 * OCCT, both ran fine for hours.
5. No overclocks at all.
Just to add a few more points...I've been having problems with my PC randomly locking up/freezing for months but have been tirelessly changing out components and running tests. So far I've changed out the memory, PSU, GPU and have tested the memory (memtest86+) and hard drives (WD diagnostics). Although I've not had a lock up today (got the 580 today) I'm not confident it has gone, however I will have to wait and see because it could happen 1min from now or 2 weeks...it's that random lol. Also there is a count down timer for the Asus ExpressGate feature right before the post screen. I mention this because weirdly it sometimes fails to finish its count down, stopping by itself when it should only do so if you move the mouse.
Lastly, I won't go into the reasons why, but the i7 920 is an OEM out of a Dell, could this possibly be the cause of all the troubles.
Basically I'm at the stage where I suspect either the mobo or the cpu but would like advice on which is most likely, or even if there's something else I've missed. btw I will go away and try the other advice you've given...as well as roll back my bios lol.
one more thing my Core i7 does seem to run a bit warm from what I've read, idling it sits between 40-45c...this is with a Noctua nh-u12p se2. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Core i7 3930K @Stock Motherboard Asus Rampage IV Extreme Memory G.SKILL Z 1600Mhz 16GB Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 580 Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2409W Screen Resolution 1920x1080p Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case CM Storm Trooper Cooling Corsair H100 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB, Western Digital WD6400AAKS (X2) Other Info HITACHI/LG BH20N Blu-ray Rewriter |
27 Nov 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by TacticalTimbo 
Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy 
Quote: Originally Posted by TacticalTimbo Would anybody have a clue as to why my gaming performance is so poor? I've just installed a new GTX 580 and to my surprise Crysis is incredibly laggy. Even on just high settings at 1080p there is enough stuttering and lag to make the game very unenjoyable, almost unplayable. I've attached the results from a FRAPS benchmark (run on very high settings with no AA) and would like to know what others think. It worth noting that even when FRAPS is reporting fair numbers (30+) the game still seems to lock up. Is it possible the CPU is bottlenecking the whole system as I haven't overclocked it from the standard 2.67GHz?
Maybe on a related note I am having troubles with massive flickering of the light effects in GTA IV EFLC (street lights, break lights, signs etc) and although I seem to have gotten the game to run lag free almost all the time, I get sudden moments every so often, where the whole thing locks up for a 1-1.5 secs? Very weird indeed.
A GTX 580 should murder Crysis.
Here's a to-do list for ya: - Make sure Crysis is patched to the latest build (I remember Crysis having some issues with 64 bit OS'es a while back)
- Make sure you uninstalled your previous GPU drivers correctly (more so if your previous card was an AMD card, there's a nice little guide over @ NVIDIA's forums)
- Flash your motherboard's BIOS
- Run different stress tests on your GPU (just to make sure everything is nice and stable, [Furmark, etc])
- Remove any CPU/GPU overclocks.
latency. Just to reply to this bit:
1. Yes got the latest patches
2. Yes uninstalled old drivers and went over with DriverSweeper
3. Just tried again but same result, when I flash my BIOS to the latest (1108) it won't let me have X.M.P memory profiles on without the PC blue-screening right after the Windows is Starting logo and restarting. (with X.M.P off it loads up fine).
4. Done prime95 * OCCT, both ran fine for hours.
5. No overclocks at all.
Just to add a few more points...I've been having problems with my PC randomly locking up/freezing for months but have been tirelessly changing out components and running tests. So far I've changed out the memory, PSU, GPU and have tested the memory (memtest86+) and hard drives (WD diagnostics). Although I've not had a lock up today (got the 580 today) I'm not confident it has gone, however I will have to wait and see because it could happen 1min from now or 2 weeks...it's that random lol. Also there is a count down timer for the Asus ExpressGate feature right before the post screen. I mention this because weirdly it sometimes fails to finish its count down, stopping by itself when it should only do so if you move the mouse.
Lastly, I won't go into the reasons why, but the i7 920 is an OEM out of a Dell, could this possibly be the cause of all the troubles.
Basically I'm at the stage where I suspect either the mobo or the cpu but would like advice on which is most likely, or even if there's something else I've missed. btw I will go away and try the other advice you've given...as well as roll back my bios lol.
one more thing my Core i7 does seem to run a bit warm from what I've read, idling it sits between 40-45c...this is with a Noctua nh-u12p se2.  Could be the motherboard, doubt it's the CPU.
Try those tips I mentioned on my edits and post back your results. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-2500K Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW Sound Card ASUS Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays SAMSUNG P2070 Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech K300 Black Mouse Genius on Steelseries 4HD Gaming pad PSU Corsair TX950W Case Corsair Obsidian 650D Cooling Thermaltake Frío Hard Drives WD Caviar Blue Other Info Headphones: Sennheiser HD-515 |
27 Nov 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy
Try those tips I mentioned on my edits and post back your results. Will do, I've already run DPC (all be it without X.M.P enabled) and the result was Absolute Maximum: 191. Take it that's okay (well in the green)? Also would it be okay if I just uninstall Nivdia HD Audio driver along with the 3D driver, guess it would achieve the same result? Anyway I must say a big thank you for your time and help but I'm afraid I must get some sleep before its daylight here lol | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Core i7 3930K @Stock Motherboard Asus Rampage IV Extreme Memory G.SKILL Z 1600Mhz 16GB Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 580 Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2409W Screen Resolution 1920x1080p Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Mouse Logitech G9x PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case CM Storm Trooper Cooling Corsair H100 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB, Western Digital WD6400AAKS (X2) Other Info HITACHI/LG BH20N Blu-ray Rewriter |
27 Nov 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by TacticalTimbo one more thing my Core i7 does seem to run a bit warm from what I've read, idling it sits between 40-45c...this is with a Noctua nh-u12p se2.  Those temps are fine.
Also, as much as Crysis and GTA IV would benefit from an overclock, bottlenecking is not the issue here. Quote: Lastly, I won't go into the reasons why, but the i7 920 is an OEM out of a Dell, could this possibly be the cause of all the troubles. Unless it was damaged being removed from the Dell and/or is improperly seated, no. But you have piqued my curiosity Quote: I've been having problems with my PC randomly locking up/freezing for months but have been tirelessly changing out components and running tests. So far I've changed out the memory, PSU, GPU and have tested the memory (memtest86+) and hard drives (WD diagnostics). I'd also err on the side it being a mobo issue.
As a test - have you tried the card in the 2nd PCI-E slot? (rule out a dodgy slot)
And if you don't use Express Gate - turn it off in. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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