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Windows 7: GTA IV help


20 Nov 2011   #11
MrNeeds

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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This.
GTA IV doesn't run perfectly smooth even on the best even on the highest end PCs.
If you got it running fairly smooth overall & stable, your good to go. I wouldnt worry to much about it.

However, I would suggest a good defrag of the HD. The occasional lag you descibe "may" be a bit of harddrive hitching when the game is calling for more data to load.
A defrag could potentially help a bit in this regard.
This really only applies when the drive is heavily fragged. Depending on your hardware, that is.
thing is, i read an article a while back about how defragmenting your win 7 is a bad idea, and how it only really makes the difference in XP
nahh, it helps, i've had very quick loading times on my system after a defrag and a week earlier it was super slow, it just depends on what you use to defrag, it's really down to the graphics card, the more onboard memory your GPU has, the better the game will run, but considering i'm on an older card, the game runs like a tied down tortoise


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20 Nov 2011   #12
mrwearysinner

Windows 7 Ultumate x64
 
 

dude i didnot even know that GTA IV doesnt support SLI!! i mailed the bloody support team cause like i cudn max up the DRAW DISTANCE and they told me it does not support sli and it pissed me off!!
well if youre using a single graphics card..it shud run fine!! i finised GTAV with the draw distance to around 35 i guess bad LUCK!
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20 Nov 2011   #13
DeEmanon

7 Ultimate x64 no sp. also using Ubuntu 10.10 and Mint 9 (GNOME)
 
 

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This really only applies when the drive is heavily fragged. Depending on your hardware, that is.
thing is, i read an article a while back about how defragmenting your win 7 is a bad idea, and how it only really makes the difference in XP
nahh, it helps, i've had very quick loading times on my system after a defrag and a week earlier it was super slow, it just depends on what you use to defrag, it's really down to the graphics card, the more onboard memory your GPU has, the better the game will run, but considering i'm on an older card, the game runs like a tied down tortoise
What tool do you suggest?
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20 Nov 2011   #14
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Windows built in Defrag does just fine for the most part.

As mentioned, it really will only make a difference if the drive is currently heavily fragmented.



In regards to other free alternatives that may be better than Win7s own, not sure.

Ive always used, and prefer Perfect Disc. But, its not a free app.
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20 Nov 2011   #15
DeEmanon

7 Ultimate x64 no sp. also using Ubuntu 10.10 and Mint 9 (GNOME)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Windows built in Defrag does just fine for the most part.

As mentioned, it really will only make a difference if the drive is currently heavily fragmented.



In regards to other free alternatives that may be better than Win7s own, not sure.

Ive always used, and prefer Perfect Disc. But, its not a free app.
so what do you mean ''heavily fragged''?
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20 Nov 2011   #16
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeEmanon View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Windows built in Defrag does just fine for the most part.

As mentioned, it really will only make a difference if the drive is currently heavily fragmented.



In regards to other free alternatives that may be better than Win7s own, not sure.

Ive always used, and prefer Perfect Disc. But, its not a free app.
so what do you mean ''heavily fragged''?
If you do not know much about fragmentation, and defragmenting, please have a look here:
File system fragmentation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It should help answer all questions.


Fragmentation is actually quite normal. You can see how much there is, by typing "defrag" in you start menu search box, than open the Disk Defragmenter.
Just press the analyse button, and it will give you an idea in a percentage.

Less than 10% is generally regarded as being OK, and should not cause much of a performance issue.
More than 10% typically means a defrag pass is needed.

Heavily fragmented would be something like 20% or more fragementation.


Please bear in mind, all of this applies to mechanical Hard Drives. Solid State (SSD) suffer no ill effects from it as they work entirely different than a mechanical, platter type hard drive.

It is also worth mentioning, that by default, Windows 7 defrag passes should occur automatically any time the level get close to or exceeds 10%.
Unless you intentionally disbaled it.
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20 Nov 2011   #17
DeEmanon

7 Ultimate x64 no sp. also using Ubuntu 10.10 and Mint 9 (GNOME)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeEmanon View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Windows built in Defrag does just fine for the most part.

As mentioned, it really will only make a difference if the drive is currently heavily fragmented.



In regards to other free alternatives that may be better than Win7s own, not sure.

Ive always used, and prefer Perfect Disc. But, its not a free app.
so what do you mean ''heavily fragged''?
If you do not know much about fragmentation, and defragmenting, please have a look here:
File system fragmentation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It should help answer all questions.


Fragmentation is actually quite normal. You can see how much there is, by typing "defrag" in you start menu search box, than open the Disk Defragmenter.
Just press the analyse button, and it will give you an idea in a percentage.

Less than 10% is generally regarded as being OK, and should not cause much of a performance issue.
More than 10% typically means a defrag pass is needed.

Heavily fragmented would be something like 20% or more fragementation.


Please bear in mind, all of this applies to mechanical Hard Drives. Solid State (SSD) suffer no ill effects from it as they work entirely different than a mechanical, platter type hard drive.

It is also worth mentioning, that by default, Windows 7 defrag passes should occur automatically any time the level get close to or exceeds 10%.
Unless you intentionally disbaled it.
There is the result

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20 Nov 2011   #18
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Yea, I would go ahead and let it defrag
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20 Nov 2011   #19
MrNeeds

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

wow, that is fragged! mines barely on 1%, i use auslogics disk defragmenter as it's very quick and reliable, and free!
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