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Windows 7: Games Lagging with Direct X Update

13 Aug 2012   #11
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
Well here is the thing though the direct x install that steam is attempting is identical to the directx redistributable you would get directly from microsoft.

I'm not doubting your word or anything here I'm just saying it's not some weird version of direct x they set up themselves or anything.
Agree.

And be aware that "lag", a loose term, can happen for a myriad of reasons, to include the game, system specs, internet connection, drivers (especially video), and even Windows updates (lack thereof), so trying to narrow the causing issue down it basically trial and error.

Anyway you can look through my troubleshooting tips guide to see if there's anything in there that might help.

Tips on Troubleshooting Game Issues

Good Luck.


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13 Aug 2012   #12
Fynl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
Well here is the thing though the direct x install that steam is attempting is identical to the directx redistributable you would get directly from microsoft.

I'm not doubting your word or anything here I'm just saying it's not some weird version of direct x they set up themselves or anything.
Is there some way to reinstall Direct X 11?
I'm not sure, but maybe my Direct X 11 was corrupted somewhere along the way.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post

Agree.

And be aware that "lag", a loose term, can happen for a myriad of reasons, to include the game, system specs, internet connection, drivers (especially video), and even Windows updates (lack thereof), so trying to narrow the causing issue down it basically trial and error.

Anyway you can look through my troubleshooting tips guide to see if there's anything in there that might help.

Tips on Troubleshooting Game Issues

Good Luck.
I guess rather than lag, I'd say stuttering or jerking. Everything would run fine, freeze for half a second, then be fine again. Repeat.

I will read more thoroughly through your guide after I get out of work. Skimming through, 5, 6, and 8 look like something I'll definitely have to try.
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14 Aug 2012   #13
Fynl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
Well here is the thing though the direct x install that steam is attempting is identical to the directx redistributable you would get directly from microsoft.

I'm not doubting your word or anything here I'm just saying it's not some weird version of direct x they set up themselves or anything.
Agree.

And be aware that "lag", a loose term, can happen for a myriad of reasons, to include the game, system specs, internet connection, drivers (especially video), and even Windows updates (lack thereof), so trying to narrow the causing issue down it basically trial and error.

Anyway you can look through my troubleshooting tips guide to see if there's anything in there that might help.

Tips on Troubleshooting Game Issues

Good Luck.
To update, I've gone through the guide and done/checked the tips. Nothing seems to have made a difference yet.
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14 Aug 2012   #14
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

I don't know what else to tell you; as I said before dealing with lag is a trial and error thing. It could be the game itself. Skyrim (as well as other Bethesda games) for example is known it's micro-stuttering.

If the issue is bad enough though it needs to be dealt withÖ thatís the trial and error thing as only you know how bad it is. A lot of people who have lag or stuttering problems play around with various driver versions for their video card. Example, some people find that older drivers may perform better on a particular game over the newer ones. However itís always best to have the latest butÖ???

That said be aware that older (pre vista) games may struggle on newer (Windows 7) systems depending on the age of the game. Thatís why itís ALWAYS best to have the latest patches for any game out.

And, just to mention it, pirated games will almost always be problematic at some point, especially if they arenít patched. Iím not saying you are or arenít, Iím just mentioning another possibility.

Good luck.
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14 Aug 2012   #15
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

I doubt it has anything to do with direct x at all

It is probally a steam issue have you checked you ping while gaming also

Im experiencing lag on some of my games due to having new video cards micro lagg and choppy play

I can almost say it would be more of steam then your system try running a non related steam game and see what happens
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14 Aug 2012   #16
Fynl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
I don't know what else to tell you; as I said before dealing with lag is a trial and error thing. It could be the game itself. Skyrim (as well as other Bethesda games) for example is known it's micro-stuttering.

If the issue is bad enough though it needs to be dealt with… that’s the trial and error thing as only you know how bad it is. A lot of people who have lag or stuttering problems play around with various driver versions for their video card. Example, some people find that older drivers may perform better on a particular game over the newer ones. However it’s always best to have the latest but…???

That said be aware that older (pre vista) games may struggle on newer (Windows 7) systems depending on the age of the game. That’s why it’s ALWAYS best to have the latest patches for any game out.

And, just to mention it, pirated games will almost always be problematic at some point, especially if they aren’t patched. I’m not saying you are or aren’t, I’m just mentioning another possibility.

Good luck.
Thank you for the well wishing. I don't have any pirated games on my laptop and unfortunately, my video card only seems to have one driver that I can locate.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
I doubt it has anything to do with direct x at all

It is probally a steam issue have you checked you ping while gaming also

Im experiencing lag on some of my games due to having new video cards micro lagg and choppy play

I can almost say it would be more of steam then your system try running a non related steam game and see what happens
My ping is usually fine, ~30 ms or so. Basically after Steam runs the Direct X installation (and in the System Restore menu, the event is Installed Direct X), all of my games made probably 2010 and onward start getting stuttering during gameplay, whether it be Steam or non-Steam. It's such a weird problem.

If it helps, I can list the games that I'm trying and the ones that end up lagging.

The ones that I try to play which trigger the Direct X installation on Steam are:
Transformers: War for Cybertron
Galactic Civilizations II

The ones that end up lagging are:
Assassin's Creed 2
Saints Row the Third
Borderlands
Vindictus
Batman Arkham City
World of Tanks (non-Steam)

I assume more would lag, but I haven't gone through my entire library yet.
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15 Aug 2012   #17
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

What kind of card and what PSU ?

Also have you tryed re installing your video card sometimes reseating it
might help
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15 Aug 2012   #18
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fynl View Post
Thank you for the well wishing. I don't have any pirated games on my laptop and unfortunately, my video card only seems to have one driver that I can locate.
If this is a laptop you're having the lag with, therein lays the problem. Laptops aren't exactly gaming systems per se won't run nearly as smoothly as a desktop, mainly because the desktop is usually more powerful than the traditional laptop.

And if your video card isn't up to the task, and you can't find driver updates, I truly suspect that is the issue for your "lag".

Bottom line is you need to figure out what video card you have and find updated drivers for it.

Thanks.

Edit....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fynl View Post
I'm running a 3610QM core, GT 650m graphics, and 8 GB RAM.
Seems the card is decent enough though not ground breaking.

- NVIDIA GT 650M Benchmarks
- NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - Games

I seriously suggest you try to get the latest drivers for your card. You'll have to go the laptop's manufacturer's site to get the drivers for your laptop.
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15 Aug 2012   #19
Fynl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
What kind of card and what PSU ?

Also have you tryed re installing your video card sometimes reseating it
might help
Video card is GT 650M. I'm not sure what the PSU is in the laptop.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fynl View Post
Thank you for the well wishing. I don't have any pirated games on my laptop and unfortunately, my video card only seems to have one driver that I can locate.
If this is a laptop you're having the lag with, therein lays the problem. Laptops aren't exactly gaming systems per se won't run nearly as smoothly as a desktop, mainly because the desktop is usually more powerful than the traditional laptop.

And if your video card isn't up to the task, and you can't find driver updates, I truly suspect that is the issue for your "lag".

Bottom line is you need to figure out what video card you have and find updated drivers for it.

Thanks.

Edit....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fynl View Post
I'm running a 3610QM core, GT 650m graphics, and 8 GB RAM.
Seems the card is decent enough though not ground breaking.

- NVIDIA GT 650M Benchmarks
- NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - Games

I seriously suggest you try to get the latest drivers for your card. You'll have to go the laptop's manufacturer's site to get the drivers for your laptop.
It's not the greatest card in the world (it is a laptop after all, like you said) but it was fine with these games before hand. Only recently have I had issues. It is specifically after the Direct X installation that I get this problem. I say its due to the installation because when I do a System Recover to the moment right before the Direct X installation (that's the name of the event), everything is fine again. The laptop itself is only 3 months old.

I've tried getting the latest drivers, but when I do a search on the nVidia site, all I get is something along the lines of "there are no new drivers for your card". I assume that means there either aren't any drivers besides the initial release or I already have the latest ones. I DID try using the latest beta version of the driver, but that hasn't had a noticeable effect. I will try searching HP's site later and see if I can find any sort of drivers.

Again, thank you for all of your posts. Hopefully I can either get this straightened out or at least fix up my desktop so I don't have to worry about gaming on my laptop anymore.
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15 Aug 2012   #20
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fynl View Post
I've tried getting the latest drivers, but when I do a search on the nVidia site, all I get is something along the lines of "there are no new drivers for your card".
As I said earlier, because you have a laptop, you have to get the drivers from the laptop manufacturer, not NVidia. Laptop manufacturers tweak their drivers for their notebooks/laptops, that why you have to get them there and not NVidia. That's also probably why you can't find them on NVidiaís site.

As to whether there is a new release or not is a different story, you still have to get your drivers from them (the manufacturer).

Good luck.
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