| Windows 7: Is PC gaming Being Done Away With? |
15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 164 posts Indiana |

Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher I personally like digital versions since you don't have to worry about the disc and the keys.
With Steam, you can download and install your game anytime you want.
And it auto updates pretty much every game for.
Origin is similar but not as polished as Steam.
And it's hard to resell hard copies of games since most are tied to an account you setup when you install it.
I also prefer digital. So much easier and I don't have to explain to the wife what is in the bag when I get home
I backup my steamapps folder on my external a few times a year just in case. This saved my a** one time when I had a hard drive failure.
Length of time to re-install over 90+ games on Steam with a backup = under 1/2 hour
Length of time to re-install over 90+ games with physical copies not to mention the patches = I don't even want to know | My System Specs |
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15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 6,496 posts Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by HAVOC 
Quote: Originally Posted by RitualJman I still like to have a hard copy of my games This + infinity
Lets say you need to reinstall Windows or a game itself. Now lets say your internet is slow or not working at the time you are doing a reinstall, kinda screwed aren't you?
If you also have alot of games this downloading can take forever. You may have your game files backed up but I always find with downloaded game files it always downloads more files and alot of times they dont make it through install (errors) so you have to redownload the entire game again.
Having a physical copy on hand is so much better, install Windows, install games, done.
Steam, Origin and other "services" aren't that helpful.
When did PC gamers start need hand holding with installs, backups and installing patches? There's always going to be the "what if" factor in life so that equals all things out in the end.
Anyway my opposite argument to yours is this (which I actually use).... if you do partitions like most people do, you can have your Steam directory installed on a different partition. Than say you need to reinstall Windows, which is on a different drive/partition… Well, once Windows is reinstalled, all you need to do is reinstall the Steam App (a 1.5 meg 30 second install file) and wholla... all your Steam games are there and accessible.... NO re-downloading, just ready to play!
You don't necessarily have this option with "hard copy" games, which usually require reinstalling because of missing registry strings due to an OS reinstall.
Anyway there’s always a pro and con to everything so….
And I too like my hard copies but for a different reason as I like to collect things. And yes, it is easier to install a hard copy than depend on a server’s speed to get your game files.
On the other hand cloud/server based systems like Steam can save tons of download time if used like I discussed above.
As to the original question... Is PC Gaming being done away with? No, it just becoming part of the universal port... games are made with consoles in mind, then ported to PC.
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15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 3,480 posts Lahore, Pakistan |
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15 Sep 2012
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| | Vista x64 + Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate) 1,378 posts Miami, Florida |
I don't think they are dying but I do think they are changing and for the worse... instead of First Person we are now getting Third Person, instead of making us use our head and think, we are now taken by the hand and told when to press our buttons so we can get out of the chokepoints with our limbs intact. Instead of having a fun Campaign with some plot, we got a bunch of cut scenes to make the game seem awesome.
Oh and make sure you revise your PC every 6 months,buy the latest GPU and CPU onlly to find out that your card is not even supported because it is TO NEW or just play with the same graphics that used to WOW you back in 2002 because we are porting the game from the Xbox.
We are told that 95% of PC gamers pirate the games and that is illegal but, it is ok for them to give us mediocre or even unfinished games and still pay full price for them... sad thing is people think this is OK and normal!
In a way, YES, I do believe they are being done away with and Yes, you are correct... I am a little hurt by it.
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15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 338 posts Within the radius of 25 miles from LA. |
PC gaming market is on the rise, IMO, but the gameplay quality (not the visuals as they are slowly improving on that area) is gradually becoming worse as more and more games are released with more bugs and invasive anti-cheating/piracy activation software known as DRM. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Optiplex SX270, Lenovo Z470 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel® Pentium® 4 @ 2.26 GHz, Intel Core i7-2670QM @ 2.20 GH Motherboard Dell, Lenovo Memory 512MB Dual channel DDR SDRAM @ 400MHz 2.5-3-3-7, 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel 82865G, Nvidia GeForce 520M Graphics Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Audio, Integrated HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG W1952 Screen Resolution 1440x900, 1366 x 768 Keyboard Dell SK-8125 USB Keyboard Mouse Dell PS/2 2 button ball mouse with wheel scroll PSU Dell 145 Watt, Lenovo 120 Watt Power Adapter Case Optiplex SX270 Small Form Factor, Laptop Cooling Dell Proprietary Air Cooling, Stock laptop cooling Hard Drives 40 GB 2.5" IDE 4200 RPM HDD, 500 GB 5400 RPM Sata 1.5 + 32 GB SSD Internet Speed 10 Mbit down / 1 kbps up Road Runner Cable Antivirus MSE, Malwarebytes Scanner Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info Running Windows Server 2012 Datacenter on a virtural machine to run Metro Apps. |
15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 8,757 posts Northern Ohio |
Torrents and the like lower the quality of games. The more games or programs people steal the less money the company that make those games or programs has to keep the quality standards that everybody wants. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 6,496 posts Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by theveterans PC gaming market is on the rise, IMO, but the gameplay quality (not the visuals as they are slowly improving on that area) is gradually becoming worse as more and more games are released with more bugs and invasive anti-cheating/piracy activation software known as DRM. While you have a point in that we the consumers are often getting broken, unpolished games from game companies, the DRM issue is dead as far as I'm concerned. Really when was the last time you (general) had a DRM issue? I can't even remember the last time I had one and I've bought a great deal of games.
Personally I feel the only anti-DRM voices out there now are the pirates who find it increasingly harder to get "free" software. I'm not saying you're one of them I'm just making a point.
Anyway the unfinished, unpolished games that are heaped upon us is what irks me. We really have become paying beta testers. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card Soundblaster ZXR Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB), 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 338 posts Within the radius of 25 miles from LA. |
In many older pc games, you can just load the disc to be able to launch the game, but today's games like battlefield 3, you must install and run background services that hamper user experience and performance such as PunkBuster, and the dreaded Origin. And then after installing all that, you must install a friggin browser plugin to lauch the game. And as you say that we become paying beta testers, that is very true and I agree since after installing all of that plugins, origin, punkbuster, you have to download a massive patch for the game and keep updating all those anti-cheating, DRM software. If these torrent users not sharing these games for free, we wouldn't have to deal with those additional bloatware/nag-ware that new games require to play. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Optiplex SX270, Lenovo Z470 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 CPU Intel® Pentium® 4 @ 2.26 GHz, Intel Core i7-2670QM @ 2.20 GH Motherboard Dell, Lenovo Memory 512MB Dual channel DDR SDRAM @ 400MHz 2.5-3-3-7, 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel 82865G, Nvidia GeForce 520M Graphics Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Audio, Integrated HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG W1952 Screen Resolution 1440x900, 1366 x 768 Keyboard Dell SK-8125 USB Keyboard Mouse Dell PS/2 2 button ball mouse with wheel scroll PSU Dell 145 Watt, Lenovo 120 Watt Power Adapter Case Optiplex SX270 Small Form Factor, Laptop Cooling Dell Proprietary Air Cooling, Stock laptop cooling Hard Drives 40 GB 2.5" IDE 4200 RPM HDD, 500 GB 5400 RPM Sata 1.5 + 32 GB SSD Internet Speed 10 Mbit down / 1 kbps up Road Runner Cable Antivirus MSE, Malwarebytes Scanner Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info Running Windows Server 2012 Datacenter on a virtural machine to run Metro Apps. |
15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 2,193 posts Norfolk, VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by theveterans In many older pc games, you can just load the disc to be able to launch the game, but today's games like battlefield 3, you must install and run background services that hamper user experience and performance such as PunkBuster, and the dreaded Origin. And then after installing all that, you must install a friggin browser plugin to lauch the game. And as you say that we become paying beta testers, that is very true and I agree since after installing all of that plugins, origin, punkbuster, you have to download a massive patch for the game and keep updating all those anti-cheating, DRM software. If these torrent users not sharing these games for free, we wouldn't have to deal with those additional bloatware/nag-ware that new games require to play. How are the torrent users playing bf3 on origin? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
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15 Sep 2012
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| | Windows 7 Home premium 64bit 2,800 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 
Quote: Originally Posted by theveterans PC gaming market is on the rise, IMO, but the gameplay quality (not the visuals as they are slowly improving on that area) is gradually becoming worse as more and more games are released with more bugs and invasive anti-cheating/piracy activation software known as DRM. While you have a point in that we the consumers are often getting broken, unpolished games from game companies, the DRM issue is dead as far as I'm concerned. Really when was the last time you (general) had a DRM issue? I can't even remember the last time I had one and I've bought a great deal of games.
Personally I feel the only anti-DRM voices out there now are the pirates who find it increasingly harder to get "free" software. I'm not saying you're one of them I'm just making a point.
Anyway the unfinished, unpolished games that are heaped upon us is what irks me. We really have become paying beta testers. Not true i had trouble with drm when installing gta iv and borderlands and had to go through a bunch of steps from there website to get the secure rom crap to work how it should 
Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher How are the torrent users playing bf3 on origin? They can't you need a legit key to even connect and a orgin acount that has that key registered,idk what this guy is talking about unless its some way that they play with each other but not with legit users. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 Home premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 925 (Deneb) OC 3.4GHz Motherboard M5A78L-MLX Plus Memory 8192MB RAM DDR3 1600 Graphics Card XFX HD 6870 1GB (Connected via HDMI) Monitor(s) Displays Polaroid TLAC-02255 22" Digital HD LED TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 60Hz Keyboard Microsoft USB Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (IntelliType Pro) Mouse Logitech Optical Gaming Mouse G400 PSU CORSAIR CX600 600w Case AZZA Orion 202 EVO with 3fans and a corsair af fan Cooling cooler master hyper TX3 cpu cooler Hard Drives Kingston Digital 60GB SSDNow V300 and 500gb HDD Western Digital 7200rpm (black) Internet Speed 6Mbps download 0.65Mbps upload Antivirus MSE Browser chrome Is PC gaming Being Done Away With? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:49 PM. | |