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Windows 7: Is PC gaming Being Done Away With?


15 Sep 2012   #21

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

I don't mind steam, its true if your internet is slow for what ever reason its a pain in the a**. also if you take your computer some where that doesn't have a internet connection, mine doesn't let me play any of my steam games when my computer isn't connected to the internet. I find that my local best buy doesn't stock many titles anymore for the PC anymore. I still love to game on my computer, but i really don't like having to buy games online digitaly, although I could just copy the download and burn it to a DVD and keep it as a back up copy.

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15 Sep 2012   #22

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

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PC gaming market is on the rise, IMO, but the gameplay quality (not the visuals as they are slowly improving on that area) is gradually becoming worse as more and more games are released with more bugs and invasive anti-cheating/piracy activation software known as DRM.
While you have a point in that we the consumers are often getting broken, unpolished games from game companies, the DRM issue is dead as far as I'm concerned. Really when was the last time you (general) had a DRM issue? I can't even remember the last time I had one and I've bought a great deal of games.

Personally I feel the only anti-DRM voices out there now are the pirates who find it increasingly harder to get "free" software. I'm not saying you're one of them I'm just making a point.

Anyway the unfinished, unpolished games that are heaped upon us is what irks me. We really have become paying beta testers.
Not true i had trouble with drm when installing gta iv and borderlands and had to go through a bunch of steps from there website to get the secure rom crap to work how it should
A game install problem does not necessarily equate to DRM. Yes Borderlands was one of those games that could have install issues, I had them, but I didn't have to go through any extraordinary steps to get the game to install, it was just a very slow install process.

But, even if that was a DRM issue, that's just one game out of the many others that never gave me problems. If I have one out of 10 games give me problems do I conclude they're all problematic? I think not.

At any rate I’m not going to get into the DRM debate as it can be a touchy subject so we’ll agree to disagree agreeably


Peace
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15 Sep 2012   #23

win 7 64
 
 

I check steam once a month because I'm lucky to find a decent RPG per month. More like 3 months to find one made properly. People torrent because were sick of getting ripped off. I expect premium gaming for 60 dollors. We get half a game rest to be released as downloadable content. We can't do it properly and release an expansion or sequal. We will sell them the game 10 dollors at a time. Nickel n diming customers is getting old. The last game I bought was skyrim. That is the last game I will buy. It did me in. How could they released that game which proved to be unplayable on everyone computers. Pan it off to nvidia and amd to solve the performance issus cause they said were done. We are beta testers.

Try to be smart by reading reviews before you buy? That's a load. Look on metacritic how many site gave Diablo 3 a 9 of 10. They sensored the forums banning people making the game appear better to the unsuspecting. We all know how badly they failed in every aspect in delivering a pleasant gaming experience. PC gaming has hit rock bottom I refuse to roll over and keep paying to be treated like garbage. I'm not part of the solution but torrenting was never the problem. So all anti piracy ppl keep feeding their wallets. At least I know better.
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15 Sep 2012   #24

Windows 7 Home premium 64bit SP1
 
 

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While you have a point in that we the consumers are often getting broken, unpolished games from game companies, the DRM issue is dead as far as I'm concerned. Really when was the last time you (general) had a DRM issue? I can't even remember the last time I had one and I've bought a great deal of games.

Personally I feel the only anti-DRM voices out there now are the pirates who find it increasingly harder to get "free" software. I'm not saying you're one of them I'm just making a point.

Anyway the unfinished, unpolished games that are heaped upon us is what irks me. We really have become paying beta testers.
Not true i had trouble with drm when installing gta iv and borderlands and had to go through a bunch of steps from there website to get the secure rom crap to work how it should
A game install problem does not necessarily equate to DRM. Yes Borderlands was one of those games that could have install issues, I had them, but I didn't have to go through any extraordinary steps to get the game to install, it was just a very slow install process.

But, even if that was a DRM issue, that's just one game out of the many others that never gave me problems. If I have one out of 10 games give me problems do I conclude they're all problematic? I think not.

At any rate I’m not going to get into the DRM debate as it can be a touchy subject so we’ll agree to disagree agreeably


Peace
Secure rom is a type of DRM. It should be happy i entered my key and be asking me for the key.DRM is useless against pirates anyway it does nothing,they break in on launch day and all it does is hurt the consumers .I shouldn't have to go through some bull because of drm -_-,drm should die it does nothing to prevent them and just hurts ppl who buy it. You haven't run into yet but expect it to bug you at some point i only had it bug me 2 times and games like batman only allow you to reinstall 5 times and after that you can't install it and you have a dead game.
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16 Sep 2012   #25

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Why would anybody using a torrent expect to steal a game and demand quality at the same time. People who steal the game hurt those that buy the game. If the game cost more money then save more money and then buy the game.
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16 Sep 2012   #26

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

That DRM is a big problem on the game, every single time you want to play the game you have to enter the key and let it verify the key each time. I played the game 5 times and won't play it till they fix it or i just won't play it at all. All these game company's need to start to put more quality and more time into testing the games to make them worth the $60 they want or they can lower the price to of the games.

RitualJman
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16 Sep 2012   #27

Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit
 
 

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I still like to have a hard copy of my games
This + infinity

Lets say you need to reinstall Windows or a game itself. Now lets say your internet is slow or not working at the time you are doing a reinstall, kinda screwed aren't you?
If you also have alot of games this downloading can take forever. You may have your game files backed up but I always find with downloaded game files it always downloads more files and alot of times they dont make it through install (errors) so you have to redownload the entire game again.

Having a physical copy on hand is so much better, install Windows, install games, done.

Steam, Origin and other "services" aren't that helpful.
When did PC gamers start need hand holding with installs, backups and installing patches?
Have to agree with you on that. My internet's slow and I prefer having CD's/DVD's. I don't like digital downloads. Last year I had some money and I wanted to buy BF2142, and EA Games only had it available for digital download and I said "Hell no, bye!". I bought it from Ebay for cheaper and still brand new in the box.

As for DRM, people are correct that it hurts more players than they think it does. I don't do DRM and I refuse to play games that want internet access. It just goes back on the shelf. I don't care how good it is.

Layback, you're correct to an extent. But it's not the piraters that ruin the consumers. It's the companies. They're the ones who use DRM's and CD-Checks out of fear, and no trust in the consumers. That right there says something about them. EA is more concerned about pirates than their games. Hence why they've released very buggy games in the last 6-7 years. They push their workers and over-work them (or give them a total BS timeline and they don't have enough time to make it bugless). The main reason I (mostly) boycot the newer games is because they have stupid DRM's that I won't be using, and if the company don't like it, well, too bad for them, eh? They won't be getting my money. Period.
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16 Sep 2012   #28

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
 
 

If I can't find the game in store, I just buy it from www.amazon.ca good prices on most of the games cheap shipping.
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16 Sep 2012   #29

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Well lets make it short guys... We all like Digital or Retail Copy... PC Gaming will Never Die! End of Story.

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16 Sep 2012   #30

Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit
 
 

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If I can't find the game in store, I just buy it from Amazon.ca: Online shopping for Canadians - books, electronics, music, DVDs, software, video games & more good prices on most of the games cheap shipping.
Took me 7 days to get the game (I would have gotten it in 5th if the 6th day wasn't a blasted holiday).

As for the PC game industry going out? Not any time soon, but I'm honestly getting fed up with stupid "ports" (also why I don't buy certain games). I just don't like ported games. That to me is just...wrong. They usually have some type of problem with it. Such as GTA4 won't run with regular joysticks, you have to install a certain file to make a regular joystick work, otherwise the game won't recognize it and you're forced to use a stupid controller to fly helicopters (or the keyboard). That's just poor programming and a waste. Skyrim's pretty much the same thing...ported over and the game's not even done being patched, also why I won't play it. That and it makes you use Steam, so uhh...no.

They still make games for PC's, but some are just ported over.
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