| Windows 7: What will be the limit? |
27 Feb 2013
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#1 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |
What will be the limit? In terms of game requirements, and how demanding they are.
What would a game need to do in order to increase it's demands to the system past.. lets say.. A GTX Titan, or an HD7970? It seems those cards can pretty much obliterate any game.
But what about games? What would a game need to have in order to make these new cards useless and unable to even pull 30 FPS?
I thought this would be an interesting topic. | My System Specs |
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27 Feb 2013
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
i dont think there will ever be a limit....
technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.
now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD FX 4300 @ 4.2 GHZ Motherboard MSI 970A-G43 Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB Graphics Card PNY GTX 560 Ti OC Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays 20" Hanns-G HL203 Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard Logitech K360 LE Mouse Rocketfish Nano PSU Corsair CX500M Case Athena Power- Black Widow Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 Hard Drives WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed 60Mbps Down 8Mbps Up Other Info Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:
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27 Feb 2013
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#3 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Quadrider10 i dont think there will ever be a limit....
technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.
now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox. Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.
The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology.. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 professional X64 CPU AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz. Motherboard Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4 Memory 8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz Graphics Card XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Logitech M504 PSU Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W Case Thermaltake Commander MS-I Cooling Cooler Master N520 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
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27 Feb 2013
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
It will depend on how fast consoles advance.
Games today, with the exception of very few, are designed around the abilities of a console.
Then ported to PC. Some Devs add extra things to make them look better, but it still doesn't change the fact the game was initially designed for a consoles ability.
Sad but true.
And also the fact a console can be highly optimized to run on that hardware.
Where as with PC games, there are hundreds of possible configurations each capable of different levels of 3D rendering.
And of course, Devs want to accomodate as many as possible. This is why technically, a PC needs a bit more power to run at the same settings a console will. Its not as optimized. Still, theres so much extra power in the typical gaming PC they can just strong-arm thier way through and have thier way without much issue.
It would be interesting to see a game that takes full advantage of a modern gaming PC. But in order to take full advatage, I think all PCs would need to be running the same HW to be as optimized as possible.. which is sadly impossible.
Could you image a highly optimized game designed to take full advantage of a PCs power with a stock 2600K, GTX 570 and 4Gb of RAM? That alone if targeted as such would result in an amazing game visually IMHO.
Much less what PCs are currently capable of. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
27 Feb 2013
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar 
Quote: Originally Posted by Quadrider10 i dont think there will ever be a limit....
technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.
now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox. Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.
The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology..
im sure games, developers, and engines will be completely be able to obliterate a titan. however, if you need a titan GPU and highest end CPU to run that game, would you buy it? probs not. thats y games dont exceed the hardware capabilities that are currently affordable to the general public and occasional gamer. like me.
i dont have the fastest laptop available, but its still fast. i want BF3, and my computer will be able to run it, (poorly) so i will buy it. but if it costed $100 and i would NEVER be able to run that game because of hardware incompatibilities, i would never buy it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD FX 4300 @ 4.2 GHZ Motherboard MSI 970A-G43 Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB Graphics Card PNY GTX 560 Ti OC Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays 20" Hanns-G HL203 Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard Logitech K360 LE Mouse Rocketfish Nano PSU Corsair CX500M Case Athena Power- Black Widow Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 Hard Drives WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed 60Mbps Down 8Mbps Up Other Info Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:
Windows 7 Home Premium~
Intel Core i5 560M @3.2GHZ~
6GB DDR3 RAM~
ATI Mobility Radeon 540v 512MB~
Intel 330 Sata III 120GB SSD~
Illuminated Keyboard |
27 Feb 2013
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#6 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Quadrider10 
Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar 
Quote: Originally Posted by Quadrider10 i dont think there will ever be a limit....
technology is always increasing and improving and along with that so are game engines, screen resolutions, CPU's and GPU's. so as gpu's increse, so do screen resolutions, and games to meet those requirements. for the record, 4k TV's are now out, so expect to see a 4k compatible GPU in a few years. however, they do cost the price of a new mercadies.
now xbox and PS3 are different stories. it is belived that the xbox 720 (the new one thats sopose to come out) is sopose to have the ATI 6670 gpu. a lower end GPU. so games are limited to those system specs. and always will be unless they manage to make a full blown gaming computer out of an xbox. Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.
The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology..
im sure games, developers, and engines will be completely be able to obliterate a titan. however, if you need a titan GPU and highest end CPU to run that game, would you buy it? probs not. thats y games dont exceed the hardware capabilities that are currently affordable to the general public and occasional gamer. like me.
i dont have the fastest laptop available, but its still fast. i want BF3, and my computer will be able to run it, (poorly) so i will buy it. but if it costed $100 and i would NEVER be able to run that game because of hardware incompatibilities, i would never buy it. But even so. A titan can barely run Crysis 3. And people are making a huge fad about Crysis 3.
I don't believe it would be a hardware compatibility, but a hardware requirement not being fullfiled. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 professional X64 CPU AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz. Motherboard Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4 Memory 8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz Graphics Card XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Logitech M504 PSU Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W Case Thermaltake Commander MS-I Cooling Cooler Master N520 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
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27 Feb 2013
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar 
Quote: Originally Posted by Quadrider10 
Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar Lets keep this to desktops, and not gaming consoles.
The question is really, what would a game need to obliterate a titan or 7970. Not why we would need better technology..
im sure games, developers, and engines will be completely be able to obliterate a titan. however, if you need a titan GPU and highest end CPU to run that game, would you buy it? probs not. thats y games dont exceed the hardware capabilities that are currently affordable to the general public and occasional gamer. like me.
i dont have the fastest laptop available, but its still fast. i want BF3, and my computer will be able to run it, (poorly) so i will buy it. but if it costed $100 and i would NEVER be able to run that game because of hardware incompatibilities, i would never buy it. But even so. A titan can barely run Crysis 3. And people are making a huge fad about Crysis 3.
I don't believe it would be a hardware compatibility, but a hardware requirement not being fullfiled.
it also depends on how well a game is optimized too. i noticed games like COD MW2 is like insanely optimized and i can run that game on almost full specs, but Black Ops, i cant even play it on the lowest settings. and there the same game engines. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD FX 4300 @ 4.2 GHZ Motherboard MSI 970A-G43 Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB Graphics Card PNY GTX 560 Ti OC Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays 20" Hanns-G HL203 Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard Logitech K360 LE Mouse Rocketfish Nano PSU Corsair CX500M Case Athena Power- Black Widow Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 Hard Drives WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed 60Mbps Down 8Mbps Up Other Info Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:
Windows 7 Home Premium~
Intel Core i5 560M @3.2GHZ~
6GB DDR3 RAM~
ATI Mobility Radeon 540v 512MB~
Intel 330 Sata III 120GB SSD~
Illuminated Keyboard |
27 Feb 2013
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Perhaps a true 3D game. Maybe a game , and yet to be invented hardware, with an interactive holographic image. One could manipulate the holograms by a virtual touch and handle virtual objects. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
27 Feb 2013
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 Perhaps a true 3D game. Maybe a game , and yet to be invented hardware, with an interactive holographic image. One could manipulate the holograms by a virtual touch and handle virtual objects. like kinect on a whole new level! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD FX 4300 @ 4.2 GHZ Motherboard MSI 970A-G43 Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB Graphics Card PNY GTX 560 Ti OC Sound Card Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays 20" Hanns-G HL203 Screen Resolution 1600x900 Keyboard Logitech K360 LE Mouse Rocketfish Nano PSU Corsair CX500M Case Athena Power- Black Widow Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 Hard Drives WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM Internet Speed 60Mbps Down 8Mbps Up Other Info Dell Studio 1458 Laptop Setup:
Windows 7 Home Premium~
Intel Core i5 560M @3.2GHZ~
6GB DDR3 RAM~
ATI Mobility Radeon 540v 512MB~
Intel 330 Sata III 120GB SSD~
Illuminated Keyboard |
27 Feb 2013
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#10 | | Windows 7 professional X64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 Perhaps a true 3D game. Maybe a game , and yet to be invented hardware, with an interactive holographic image. One could manipulate the holograms by a virtual touch and handle virtual objects. This.
I'm glad you understand the real topic of the thread! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop OS Windows 7 professional X64 CPU AMD A10-5800K OC@ 4.4Ghz. Motherboard Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4 Memory 8GB Kingston HyperX Blu 1333mhz Graphics Card XFX HD7870 2GB Core Edition Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Mouse Logitech M504 PSU Cooler Master Silent Pro M 850W Case Thermaltake Commander MS-I Cooling Cooler Master N520 Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
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