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Windows 7: I found the xbox one reveal a REAL turn off so ..........

11 Jun 2013   #31
Maguscreed

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Windows 7 x64
 
 

The only thing steam does on cloud is save games, and even then not for every title.
Did you even read the article?
You are mistaking digital download for cloud computing, they are not the same thing.


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11 Jun 2013   #32
BomberAF

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
The only thing steam does on cloud is save games, and even then not for every title.
Did you even read the article?
You are mistaking digital download for cloud computing, they are not the same thing.
So when you say cloud gaming it means that the actual software is saved in the cloud and never downloads to your device?

I do understand that steam isn't the only way to buy games, but doesn't Steam make their games secure as you need to be connected to the web. While I understand this does nothing if you can get them on other mediums.

Just to go slightly off topic how many of the top games are not available from Steam and what is you personal opinion of Steam and why?
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11 Jun 2013   #33
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Well done SONY!!!!


Maybe MS will learn not to manipulate and control their users.

That applies to windows 8 as well.

Can somebody bring out another os that can replace windows? It needs to be software that does not seek to control and manipulate the users.

Perhaps this is the encouragement that will get us there.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Playstation4 Pre-Order
PS4 available for Pre-Order @ $399.


So, they reveal what the hardware looks like today. Announce the price (cheaper than Xbox One)
And then said this:



I think they are trying for a KO on the Xbox.

Sold me. I reserved mine already.


Oh, and then this.. OUCH!!
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11 Jun 2013   #34
AstaLaVista

Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

At this point I am skeptic at both, the only difference here is that one was dumb enough to say it first and the other one just said the opposite because they know it will win them some brownie points... will PS4 be like Google where it will hide the truth until someone discovers it and then starts the backpedaling?

I am not worry all that much since I don't game on Consoles but my kids do and they are both going towards the PS4 because of those youtube videos... I told them that unless we are sure they are not coming in my house with either one of them... we will give it its due time before I decide whether they can buy it or not, even if they do it with their own money.
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11 Jun 2013   #35
Maguscreed

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Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BomberAF View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
The only thing steam does on cloud is save games, and even then not for every title.
Did you even read the article?
You are mistaking digital download for cloud computing, they are not the same thing.
So when you say cloud gaming it means that the actual software is saved in the cloud and never downloads to your device?

I do understand that steam isn't the only way to buy games, but doesn't Steam make their games secure as you need to be connected to the web. While I understand this does nothing if you can get them on other mediums.

Just to go slightly off topic how many of the top games are not available from Steam and what is you personal opinion of Steam and why?

I have no issue with steam, steam is not cloud computing as I said before.
I have a ridiculous number of games on steam and it's a great system.
That said they still actually give me the software/games I purchase and just offer a central download point to do so.
What we are starting to see the beginnings of now not with steam but with other things, is where they don't actually even give you the software.
The idea is that you can NOT purchase it. It must basically be rented as a service until the end of time once this happens. This idea, combined with microtransactions and impulse buys, is basically meant to just plain nickle and dime you do death over time.
I think it's dishonest and I don't see any benefit had to any end user because of it.
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11 Jun 2013   #36
BomberAF

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BomberAF View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
The only thing steam does on cloud is save games, and even then not for every title.
Did you even read the article?
You are mistaking digital download for cloud computing, they are not the same thing.
So when you say cloud gaming it means that the actual software is saved in the cloud and never downloads to your device?

I do understand that steam isn't the only way to buy games, but doesn't Steam make their games secure as you need to be connected to the web. While I understand this does nothing if you can get them on other mediums.

Just to go slightly off topic how many of the top games are not available from Steam and what is you personal opinion of Steam and why?

I have no issue with steam, steam is not cloud computing as I said before.
I have a ridiculous number of games on steam and it's a great system.
That said they still actually give me the software/games I purchase and just offer a central download point to do so.
What we are starting to see the beginnings of now not with steam but with other things, is where they don't actually even give you the software.
The idea is that you can NOT purchase it. It must basically be rented as a service until the end of time once this happens. This idea, combined with microtransactions and impulse buys, is basically meant to just plain nickle and dime you do death over time.
I think it's dishonest and I don't see any benefit had to any end user because of it.
So you mean games like World of Tanks, were they say free to play but you have to pay for items in the game like gold to convert experience etc.
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11 Jun 2013   #37
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BomberAF View Post
So you mean games like World of Tanks, were they say free to play but you have to pay for items in the game like gold to convert experience etc.
That is a microtransaction yes. Many games now pop up a little alert to purchase right at the exact moment you need it as well, which is what I mean by impulse buying. Once they have your CC info and all, all you have to do is click a little yes button, impulse buys are drastically more likely to happen that way and they know this.

The cloud is only just now really starting to concern me on the heels of adobe's announcement concerning the next photoshop, which will only be available under a contract monthly subscription and you will not be able to purchase it. In fact photoshop should be disappearing from what shelves it remains on in the next couple of months here.
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11 Jun 2013   #38
M1GU31

Windows 10 64bit
 
 

Sony seems like it's going to do good. 100$ cheaper then the new xbox, only 50$ more then the Nintendos wiiu. No restriction to having to be connected to the internet also.
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11 Jun 2013   #39
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

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12 Jun 2013   #40
Juxxize

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
 
 

Hi guys , now more info has come out about the PS4 ( I know I started the thread about the xone but hey-ho ) I must say it gives me a little hope for the future of console gaming , it seems Sony are actually making a 'games console' not a ..... well what-ever the xbox one is supposed to be because it sure isn't what I'd call a games console it's nearly every thing but. Sony are allowing used games sales and you don't need an internet connection to use the console which is great news for consumers, I think anyway.
I still want to get a gaming rig but I need to get some more penny's saved up first but this thread has helped me out in learning about what's important in a gaming rig , so thanks guys .
When I do get a gaming PC I'm looking forward to using Steam because it looks like when the Steam sales are on there are some good deals to be had.
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