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Windows 7: Need a Gaming Laptop - Budget INR 45K

28 Oct 2013   #11

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NikDorado View Post

Don't waste money on high end CPUs: try to balance CPU and GPU, for example an i5 3230M and a GTX 660M are a good choiche to play in 1080p @ medium settings a lot of games.
Yep. When it comes to laptop gaming, the biggest impact is the GPU. Aim for the best moblie GPU you can afford. At your budget you have to compromise.

Also 15.6 @ 1366x768 will give you better frames than a 17.3 @ 1080P - higher avg and min at possibly higher IQ settings. Stick with a 15' screen.

On that site there's not much option that's better to choose from.


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28 Oct 2013   #12

Windows 7 Home premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NikDorado View Post
Trust me, CPU frequency will make a difference of max 2 fps in game. I tested it with my i7 3770K: running at 2,5 GHz or 4 GHz makes zero differences in games.

The best way is to find a laptop with a dual core hyperthreaded i5 and a GT 650m/GTX 660m/GT 750m/GTX 760m. This would be the best choiche.
It varies from game to game. It's largely dependent on how much physics computing the game does. In something like Skyrim, Red Faction, or Borderlands 2 and Batman Arkham City with PhysX effects turned on, it does matter. Less so with an Nvidia GPU with PhysX, but even then it only takes some of the physics processing load off of the CPU. You can get away with a less powerful CPU in physics heavy games with an Nvidia card, but you still need something halfway decent.

Still, you want a quad core CPU at least in a gaming PC regardless of whether it's a tower or a laptop. Regardless of how much the frequency matters, having a quad core does matter in a laptop or PC that has a primary function of playing games. Most games are optimized for quad core CPUs there are even a few newer games that require one. A dual core will do in most situations, but for optimal performance a quad core is important. Those extra threads make a difference and can be the difference between running certain settings on low or high.

What you don't need is a 6-8 core. No game uses more than 4 cores in a CPU. Having the extra cores can actually cause problems with some games. It can actually reduce the performance of a CPU to have too many cores because any more than four won't be used in a game regardless. For modern gaming a quad core is optimal as most new games are programed to take advantage of a quad core CPU's capabilities.

Frequency can be compensated for, but I advise against a dual core CPU for a gaming laptop, even if it's not 'high end'. Most games are made to take advantage of having one these days.

Also, the size of the screen is less important than the resolution. A 17.5" screen will perform the same as a 15" screen at the same resolution. The GPU doesn't work any harder because the screen is bigger. So either way you'll be fine. If framerate is an issue with a 1080p screen, you can lower the resolution in the settings to 1366x768 and it will run just as good as a screen with a native resolution of 1366x768. Don't worry about screen size and resolution if the price is good and it has all the other features you want. On a 15"-18" screen you likely won't notice the difference between 1080 and 768 anyway, and either way the resolution can be adjusted if you need to squeeze a few more frames out of a game.

The only thing a larger screen will impact is battery life, and that's a minimal impact at worst. It may not be an issue at all as a laptop with a larger screen is likely to have a larger battery as well.
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30 Oct 2013   #13

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Lenovo G505s, AMD A8-5550M 2.1 GHz, 500 GB 5400 RPM, 4GB DDR3, Radeon HD 8550G
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03 Nov 2013   #14

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Contrabardus View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NikDorado View Post
Trust me, CPU frequency will make a difference of max 2 fps in game. I tested it with my i7 3770K: running at 2,5 GHz or 4 GHz makes zero differences in games.

The best way is to find a laptop with a dual core hyperthreaded i5 and a GT 650m/GTX 660m/GT 750m/GTX 760m. This would be the best choiche.
It varies from game to game. It's largely dependent on how much physics computing the game does. In something like Skyrim, Red Faction, or Borderlands 2 and Batman Arkham City with PhysX effects turned on, it does matter. Less so with an Nvidia GPU with PhysX, but even then it only takes some of the physics processing load off of the CPU. You can get away with a less powerful CPU in physics heavy games with an Nvidia card, but you still need something halfway decent.

Still, you want a quad core CPU at least in a gaming PC regardless of whether it's a tower or a laptop. Regardless of how much the frequency matters, having a quad core does matter in a laptop or PC that has a primary function of playing games. Most games are optimized for quad core CPUs there are even a few newer games that require one. A dual core will do in most situations, but for optimal performance a quad core is important. Those extra threads make a difference and can be the difference between running certain settings on low or high.

What you don't need is a 6-8 core. No game uses more than 4 cores in a CPU. Having the extra cores can actually cause problems with some games. It can actually reduce the performance of a CPU to have too many cores because any more than four won't be used in a game regardless. For modern gaming a quad core is optimal as most new games are programed to take advantage of a quad core CPU's capabilities.

Frequency can be compensated for, but I advise against a dual core CPU for a gaming laptop, even if it's not 'high end'. Most games are made to take advantage of having one these days.

Also, the size of the screen is less important than the resolution. A 17.5" screen will perform the same as a 15" screen at the same resolution. The GPU doesn't work any harder because the screen is bigger. So either way you'll be fine. If framerate is an issue with a 1080p screen, you can lower the resolution in the settings to 1366x768 and it will run just as good as a screen with a native resolution of 1366x768. Don't worry about screen size and resolution if the price is good and it has all the other features you want. On a 15"-18" screen you likely won't notice the difference between 1080 and 768 anyway, and either way the resolution can be adjusted if you need to squeeze a few more frames out of a game.

The only thing a larger screen will impact is battery life, and that's a minimal impact at worst. It may not be an issue at all as a laptop with a larger screen is likely to have a larger battery as well.
But when you're looking for a gaming laptop, the first thing you should care is the GPU.

Strong CPU + bad GPU = bad gaming

Mid-end CPU + Mid-end CPU = good gaming.

The problem is that with lesa than 800$ he can't get more than a dual core i5 i think, because If he get an i7 quad core, he wouldn't have money to spend for a good GPU.

I'm trying to balance CPU to GPU with 800 dollars

And stay away from AMD APUs with integrated graphics If you want decent gaming!
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03 Nov 2013   #15

Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

I don't know in laptops but in desktop i5 & i7 = Quad Core? i3 = Duo Core?

You are right though, a 500 to 800 laptop is not the ideal gaming laptop at all, unless of course you are looking at very low level games. Those laptops also don't have the ideal temp dissipation fans, although, you can always buy a third party fans.
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03 Nov 2013   #16

 

desktop i7 = Quad core
desktop i5 = Dual core/Quad Core
desktop i3 = Dual core

laptop i7 = Dual core/Quad Core
laptop i7 = Dual core/Quad Core
laptop i7 = Dual core

the MSI GE60 0ND is a nice gaming laptop for around 800 dollars, featuring the strong dual core i5 3230M and a GTX 660M 2GB GDDR5, which perform as a desktop GTX 650.
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03 Nov 2013   #17

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

strongest CPUs are great and all, but best is not a good choice when you are on a budget. Try these out, see if one strikes your fancy:
Cheap Gaming Laptops | PCMag.com

800$ is not a lot of money when trying to get top notch gaming computers, and even less when you are trying to get laptops. You'll want to throw the most money at the GPU, as that is the thing that will power your games the most. That and RAM

somewhat more than 800$US off of that list - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392451,00.asp
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