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Windows 7: Need a Gaming Laptop - Budget INR 45K


26 Oct 2013   #1

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Need a Gaming Laptop - Budget INR 45K

I am a student who lives in hostel and have to satisfy my gaming needs also so I am desperately looking for gaming laptop among the above budget. I am keeping an eye on this Asus Laptop Asus K55VM-SX086D Laptop (3rd Gen Ci7/ 8GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2GB Graph) - Asus: Flipkart.com. Do you think it will be a good choice or would you recommend any other?


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27 Oct 2013   #2

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by friend863 View Post
I am a student who lives in hostel and have to satisfy my gaming needs also so I am desperately looking for gaming laptop among the above budget. I am keeping an eye on this Asus Laptop Asus K55VM-SX086D Laptop (3rd Gen Ci7/ 8GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2GB Graph) - Asus: Flipkart.com. Do you think it will be a good choice or would you recommend any other?
This laptop isn't really optimized for gaming. A core i7 with a GT 630M makes non-sense for it. GT 630M is a mid/low-end graphics card, while a Core i7 is a high-end CPU. You should try to balance the CPU power and the graphics card power.

Get a laptop with at least a Core i3-i5 processor and a Nvidia GeForce GT 650M - AMD Radeon HD 7770M to have decent gaming.

It is better if the graphics card has got GDDR5 memory instead of GDDR3 memory. GDDR5 will boost performance by a lot than GDDR3.
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27 Oct 2013   #3

Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

Unless you use hypertreading for school work, having an i7 is way over the top for a gaming rig or laptop.

+1 on what Nik said... go with an i3 or i5 and a better graphics card. Heat/Fire is the Devil's only friend so make sure the laptop will have plenty or room to dissipate heat, otherwise, you're going to be having nightmares with shut downs and/or BSODs
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27 Oct 2013   #4

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NikDorado View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by friend863 View Post
I am a student who lives in hostel and have to satisfy my gaming needs also so I am desperately looking for gaming laptop among the above budget. I am keeping an eye on this Asus Laptop Asus K55VM-SX086D Laptop (3rd Gen Ci7/ 8GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2GB Graph) - Asus: Flipkart.com. Do you think it will be a good choice or would you recommend any other?
This laptop isn't really optimized for gaming. A core i7 with a GT 630M makes non-sense for it. GT 630M is a mid/low-end graphics card, while a Core i7 is a high-end CPU. You should try to balance the CPU power and the graphics card power.

Get a laptop with at least a Core i3-i5 processor and a Nvidia GeForce GT 650M - AMD Radeon HD 7770M to have decent gaming.

It is better if the graphics card has got GDDR5 memory instead of GDDR3 memory. GDDR5 will boost performance by a lot than GDDR3.
On the other hand I'm not really seeing where an i-3 would make a lot of sense here either

Agree with the balance, but I'd much rather have an i7 with a GT 630/770, than an i3 with either of those cards, especially the money the OP is intending on throwing at the machine.

And yeah, I agree, a desktop would be the better way to go... regardless of laptop hardware.
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27 Oct 2013   #5

 

If he wants to do gaming, i3/i5 + 650m/7770m is long way better than i7+630m. You don't need an i7 for gaming and a good core i3 CPU is enough for gaming.
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27 Oct 2013   #6

Windows 7 Home premium
 
 

You should have no trouble with a 45k price limit. Most high end gaming laptops are only at around 25k or so [assuming you mean US currency] unless you're buying an uber suped up Alienware rig or something.

This one is nice: Amazon.com: MSI G Series GE70 2OE-017US 17.3-Inch Laptop (Black/Red): Computers & Accessories

It has a 17.5 inch 1080p screen, 3.2ghz quad core i7, a GTX 765m GPU, a 750 GB HDD. It weighs 6 lbs and only costs $1,299.99 on Amazon.

Here's a similar laptop with a GTX 770m, a 1TB HDD, 2 120GB SSD, 24gb of Ram...which is way more than you'll ever likely need, and the same CPU. It's $1,899.99 and is an absolute horse of a laptop that will tear through games with ease.

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT70-2OC-0...productDetails

The second would be the best obviously, but the first is more than sufficient for pretty much any game on the market at medium to high settings. The second laptop would allow you to play more games at maxed out settings though, has more storage space, two SSD which will reduce loading times for games you have on those drives, and isn't that much more than the first considering what you get under the hood.

That's more than enough to run any game on the market at decent settings if not maxed out settings. A great portable gaming rig and far under your 45k limit. Use some of the extra cash to get a nice gaming mouse, a copy of Windows 7, and a few games and you're good to go with this.

An i7 is nice to have for gaming even if you don't 'need' it. I've got one and it flies. I can tear through any physics engine in a game with no problems. Overkill or not, getting an i7 is a good idea because it will make the laptop last longer as a relevant gaming rig.

I also recommend getting at least 3.0ghz in the CPU. Most games don't require it, but it's nice to have anyway and the less load you're putting on your GPU and CPU, the less heat they generate. That's important in a laptop especially if you're running graphics intensive games like BF 3, Batman Arkham Origins/City, or Crysis 3 on high settings.

It's better to overdo things if it is within your budget than to get 'just what you need' and have to upgrade or replace your laptop sooner. Plus, having higher end components means less strain from heavy loads and a longer life for the laptop as a result.

Just make sure you get Windows 7 as the OS. Even if you have to buy and install it yourself. A lot of games don't get along well with Windows 8. The recent upgrade to Windows 8.1 has helped a little, but it's not fixed either. Windows 7 will run any recent PC game and it's the OS you want for a machine that is mostly intended for playing games. You probably will need to buy it and install it yourself unless you get something custom made. Most new PCs and laptops come with Windows 8 as the standard OS now. It's not difficult to do, just make sure you back up anything you don't want lost if you start using your PC and load stuff onto it before you change the OS. I recommend doing it immediately if possible.
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27 Oct 2013   #7

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Contrabardus View Post
You should have no trouble with a 45k price limit. Most high end gaming laptops are only at around 25k or so [assuming you mean US currency] unless you're buying an uber suped up Alienware rig or something.

This one is nice: Amazon.com: MSI G Series GE70 2OE-017US 17.3-Inch Laptop (Black/Red): Computers & Accessories

It has a 17.5 inch 1080p screen, 3.2ghz quad core i7, a GTX 765m GPU, a 750 GB HDD. It weighs 6 lbs and only costs $1,299.00 on Amazon.

That's more than enough to run any game on the market at decent settings if not maxed out settings. A great portable gaming rig and far under your 45k limit. Use some of the extra cash to get a nice gaming mouse, a copy of Windows 7, and a few games and you're good to go with this.

An i7 is nice to have for gaming even if you don't 'need' it. I've got one and it flies. I can tear through any physics engine in a game with no problems. Overkill or not, getting an i7 is a good idea because it will make the laptop last longer as a relevant gaming rig.

I also recommend getting at least 3.0ghz in the CPU. Most games don't require it, but it's nice to have anyway and the less load you're putting on your GPU and CPU, the less heat they generate. That's important in a laptop especially if you're running graphics intensive games like BF 3, Batman Arkham Origins/City, or Crysis 3 on high settings.

It's better to overdo things if it is within your budget than to get 'just what you need' and have to upgrade or replace your laptop sooner. Plus, having higher end components means less strain from heavy loads and a longer life for the laptop as a result.

Just make sure you get Windows 7 as the OS. Even if you have to buy and install it yourself. A lot of games don't get along well with Windows 8. The recent upgrade to Windows 8.1 has helped a little, but it's not fixed either. Windows 7 will run any recent PC game and it's the OS you want for a machine that is mostly intended for playing games. You probably will need to buy it and install it yourself unless you get something custom made. Most new PCs and laptops come with Windows 8 as the standard OS now. It's not difficult to do, just make sure you back up anything you don't want lost if you start using your PC and load stuff onto it before you change the OS. I recommend doing it immediately if possible.
He said "Budget INR 45K", which means less than 800 american dollars.

Also a core i7 is a complete overkill for gaming. Only if you use extra high end graphics cards it makes sense, but if you stay at GT 650M - GTX 660M levels, a Core i7 or a dual Core i3 would not make difference in gaming performance. Also phisics engine is rendered by Nvidia GPUs directly with a strong performance improve than CPU phisics rendering. And also CPU frequency doesn't matter, just don't go above 2,40 GHz if you can. 2,40 GHz or 3,0 GHz makes no performance difference in games.

It's at least impossible to find a new gaming laptop with Windows 7 preinstalled, all now comes with Windows 8, which is much faster than WIndows 7 in desktop operations, but lacks compatibility with some old games.

If you want a gaming laptop, don't care immediatly about CPUs. The first thing you should look at is the graphics card you have in it. Forgot to play games at decent setting/framerates with less than a Nvidia GTX 660M or an AMD HD 7850M.

A GT 630M, like an HD 7670M, should be able to play some games at low settings @60fps, but some games are really unplayable even at lowest settings: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

Another suggestion: 17.3" are very heavy and big laptops, if you can look at 15,6" ones.
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27 Oct 2013   #8

Windows 7 Home premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NikDorado View Post

He said "Budget INR 45K", which means less than 800 american dollars.

Also a core i7 is a complete overkill for gaming. Only if you use extra high end graphics cards it makes sense, but if you stay at GT 650M - GTX 660M levels, a Core i7 or a dual Core i3 would not make difference in gaming performance. Also phisics engine is rendered by Nvidia GPUs directly with a strong performance improve than CPU phisics rendering. And also CPU frequency doesn't matter, just don't go above 2,40 GHz if you can. 2,40 GHz or 3,0 GHz makes no performance difference in games.

It's at least impossible to find a new gaming laptop with Windows 7 preinstalled, all now comes with Windows 8, which is much faster than WIndows 7 in desktop operations, but lacks compatibility with some old games.

If you want a gaming laptop, don't care immediatly about CPUs. The first thing you should look at is the graphics card you have in it. Forgot to play games at decent setting/framerates with less than a Nvidia GTX 660M or an AMD HD 7850M.

A GT 630M, like an HD 7670M, should be able to play some games at low settings @60fps, but some games are really unplayable even at lowest settings: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

Another suggestion: 17.3" are very heavy and big laptops, if you can look at 15,6" ones.
Didn't notice the INR in the title. Not sure if it was ninja edited, or if I just didn't notice. Probably the latter. Anyway, it's still doable.

Just surf Amazon, NewEgg, or TigerDirect and look for a deal. I highly recommend making sure it's a quad core and at least 2.4 ghz on the CPU if you're looking to play games. $800 is enough to get something that will run most games on medium-high settings, and really intensive games like newer COD games, Battlefield 4, Far Cry 3, Crysis 3, and similar titles should run on low settings pretty well at a decent framerate.

CPU frequency does matter. Most newer games recommend somewhere around 2.4ghz, and there are a few that require 3.0 or better. 2.4 should be plenty. Also, quad core. That actually makes a bigger difference than the frequency. Having the extra threads makes a huge difference in games.

Nvidia's PhysX tech is rather unimpressive. It's not as much of a load off the CPU as they'd like you to believe. Though, yes, it does take some of the load off of the CPU so I do recommend an Nvidia chip over an AMD GPU for a laptop rig.

I've never had trouble running PhysX on an AMD card with a decent CPU though. So an i7 with a decent AMD graphics card is just as good as an i5 with an Nvidia card that supports PhysX. It's more a marketing ploy than 'breakthrough technology'. It's a minor factor to be honest and a decent CPU can do anything the Nvidia GPU physics system can do easily.

Protip: Since OP is on a budget, check out the refurbished laptops. You can get a better laptop for less money that way. Yes it's used, but it should pretty much be in like new condition with maybe a few superficial blemishes on the outer casing. The trade off of better tech is worth getting something slightly used in that situation.
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28 Oct 2013   #9

 

Trust me, CPU frequency will make a difference of max 2 fps in game. I tested it with my i7 3770K: running at 2,5 GHz or 4 GHz makes zero differences in games.

The best way is to find a laptop with a dual core hyperthreaded i5 and a GT 650m/GTX 660m/GT 750m/GTX 760m. This would be the best choiche.
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28 Oct 2013   #10

 

I have a laptop with dual core i5 3230M and GTX 660M. I tried upgrading to an i7 3630QM: i noticed ZERO fps increase in games I returned to my Core i5 and I sold the i7.

Don't waste money on high end CPUs: try to balance CPU and GPU, for example an i5 3230M and a GTX 660M are a good choiche to play in 1080p @ medium settings a lot of games.
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