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Windows 7: BF4 PC... is it out yet? is anybody


30 Oct 2013   #11

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Contrabardus View Post
Who buys Battlefield for single player anyway?

If you do, you're wasting your money. BF has always been about the MP. The only BF game that really even tried with a SP campaign was Bad Company and it's sequel. Even then, the main focus was still on MP.

Complaining about BF's SP is like buying a Ford Fiesta and complaining because it doesn't have a cargo bed and the hauling capabilities of the F-150. It wasn't designed to be a pickup truck, it's just a small car.

BF single player is nothing but a glorified tutorial for the MP. That's pretty much it, and that's how it's always been.

If you're buying BF for the single player game, you're wasting your money. If you're buying it for the MP, then it's worth the money. That's not accidental, because BF is not designed to be played in SP. The SP campaign is just an afterthought to give newbies a place to learn the ropes without being sniped every five seconds by someone who has been playing BF for ten years.

It gets me every time I see all this complaining about SP in BF. If you want SP in a shooter, play something else. There are plenty of games that are designed to be played that way. Battlefield is not and has never been one of them. That's actually -why- it's called 'Battlefield'. Because it's designed for large scale multiplayer battles above all else.
This I can agree on I play VS on Left4Dead2 and really it sharpens your skills there will always be competitions

Once you figured out the pattern on SP you pretty much Dominated the game MP is cool because there is no pattern random goodness


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30 Oct 2013   #12

Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

I did not know that about BF so I stand corrected... jury, disregard my previous post
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30 Oct 2013   #13

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AstaLaVista View Post
I did not know that about BF so I stand corrected... jury, disregard my previous post
I know you're not a fan of MP but you really should give it a go. As Tommy said it's a different game every time you play and loads of fun. Unless you've played the arse out of it for 2 years lol
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30 Oct 2013   #14

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AstaLaVista View Post
I did not know that about BF so I stand corrected... jury, disregard my previous post
I know you're not a fan of MP but you really should give it a go. As Tommy said it's a different game every time you play and loads of fun. Unless you've played the arse out of it for 2 years lol

Hey I take offense to that it's only been 4 years and 1400+ hours of play since Left4Dead2 came out in 09
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30 Oct 2013   #15

Windows 7 Professional x64 Linux Mint 16
 
 

Multi-player is fun, but some of those people are really good and you die a lot. LOL

Try to find a game/server with only 8 or 10 players total and it`s much better.

For me anyway, I`m only a Lance Corporal, you have to play a lot to move up.

I just keep getting killed, so it`s real frustrating.
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30 Oct 2013   #16

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Contrabardus View Post
Who buys Battlefield for single player anyway?

If you do, you're wasting your money. BF has always been about the MP. The only BF game that really even tried with a SP campaign was Bad Company and it's sequel. Even then, the main focus was still on MP.

Complaining about BF's SP is like buying a Ford Fiesta and complaining because it doesn't have a cargo bed and the hauling capabilities of the F-150. It wasn't designed to be a pickup truck, it's just a small car.

BF single player is nothing but a glorified tutorial for the MP. That's pretty much it, and that's how it's always been.

If you're buying BF for the single player game, you're wasting your money. If you're buying it for the MP, then it's worth the money. That's not accidental, because BF is not designed to be played in SP. The SP campaign is just an afterthought to give newbies a place to learn the ropes without being sniped every five seconds by someone who has been playing BF for ten years.

It gets me every time I see all this complaining about SP in BF. If you want SP in a shooter, play something else. There are plenty of games that are designed to be played that way. Battlefield is not and has never been one of them. That's actually -why- it's called 'Battlefield'. Because it's designed for large scale multiplayer battles above all else.

They still haven't done anything with the MP. I played the beta, it seems like a BF3 map pack.
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30 Oct 2013   #17

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ganjiry View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AstaLaVista View Post
I did not know that about BF so I stand corrected... jury, disregard my previous post
I know you're not a fan of MP but you really should give it a go. As Tommy said it's a different game every time you play and loads of fun. Unless you've played the arse out of it for 2 years lol

Hey I take offense to that it's only been 4 years and 1400+ hours of play since Left4Dead2 came out in 09
It's mad just how many hours we can throw at a gameisn't it

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Multi-player is fun, but some of those people are really good and you die a lot. LOL

Try to find a game/server with only 8 or 10 players total and it`s much better.

For me anyway, I`m only a Lance Corporal, you have to play a lot to move up.

I just keep getting killed, so it`s real frustrating.
Yeah i know the feeling mate, There are plenty of nights where i just can't see to be able to hit anything n do nothing but spawn and die but other nights it's the other way around. You can't win em all.
There are some redicullously good players though.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MellowCream View Post
They still haven't done anything with the MP. I played the beta, it seems like a BF3 map pack.
The beta was limited a hell of a lot because it was an old build with hardly any textures or weapons but now it's totally different to BF3. The maps are a nice size, it looks great, runs great and the pace has slowed a lot from BF3.
It's a vast improvement.
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30 Oct 2013   #18

Windows 8.1 Pro + Windows 10
 
 

I played a little bit of the beta. I will get BF4 eventually. Although MP is my favorite, I like to play the campaign first. Brian, keep at it, you will start getting more kills than deaths soon. I spent a lot of hours playing BF3. 546 hrs and 19 minutes, just checked.
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30 Oct 2013   #19

Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

I only have a few hours a day to play and enjoy a game, I really don't want to waste it screaming at the monitor because I can;t even get out of the hole or listen to 12 yr old kids screaming in my ear cussing their hearts out...

I guess I will wait for CoD Ghosts then.
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30 Oct 2013   #20

Windows 7 Home premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AstaLaVista View Post
I only have a few hours a day to play and enjoy a game, I really don't want to waste it screaming at the monitor because I can;t even get out of the hole or listen to 12 yr old kids screaming in my ear cussing their hearts out...

I guess I will wait for CoD Ghosts then.
Honestly, that sounds more like CoD than BF's crowd to me. It's worse on consoles either way, but BF players tend to be older. The more open maps of BF lend themselves to better survival rates as well. You're less likely to get stuck in a hole with some asshat sniper who's plugging up a bottleneck in a map or get stonewalled by a team that's set up a killbox.

Even if you do find yourself getting stuck on a bottleneck or wandering into a killbox, you can just use explosives to make a new route or try a different angle of attack.

CoD's levels are pretty linear, essentially 'rooms' with fixed corridors and passages that can't really be altered and stay the same with every playthrough. Defensive and offensive strategies don't change much once you know the layout of the maps.

BF is much more fluid and open to changing tactics and no two matches play the same way. There is no getting 'stuck' in a bottleneck in that game. You simply blow a new passageway with some explosives and go on your merry way.

It's the only game I can think of where you can eliminate an annoying sniper that you can't quite pinpoint simply by leveling the building he's nesting in, or make your way around an opposing team's killbox by blowing a few walls out of the way to avoid it.

CoD is a game for the masses, it's the game every thirteen year old troll on the internet gets for Christmas or just because they beg for it enough because their parents buy it to shut them up, either because they're ignorant of what the 'M' rating means, or simply because they don't really care and are too lazy or too buffaloed by their kids tantrums to say 'no'.

Yeah, some of the little brats get BF too, but CoD is the big fish in that pond. It's the big game to have because 'all the other kids have it'.

I haven't played BF in a long while, but I haven't run into more than a small handful of obnoxious twelve year old kids or found myself repeatedly killed every five seconds because of map restrictions. When I died it was my fault, and I was usually playing with adults when I went online.

I do admit that CoD Ghosts looks decent. However, if I do play it [and I probably won't], I probably won't get into MP. If I decide I want to waste a few hundred hours online I'll probably end up with BF 4 later this year.

Right now, I've got too many other things backlogged and I wouldn't play it. I stopped caring about CoD years ago. They aren't horrible games, but got a little too much like Madden. Not enough new because they're shoveling out a game or two every year and essentially just doing minor updates and texture swaps.
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