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Windows 7: Gamma & Brightness Issues...

26 Oct 2009   #1
cneuhauser

 
 
Gamma & Brightness Issues...

So here's the problem...I've been able to adjust gamma, contrast, and brightness via the Win7 calibration utility and via Nvidia control panel. Both do a great job...

Unfortunately those game adjustments don't carry over into games, so my gamma and brightness have to constantly be adjusted in games. With XP it forced games to use my desktop gamma which was great, then I could fine tune anything I needed inside the game. This is not the case in Win7. Win7 bails out of the gamma adjustment and lets games comtrol it completely, and this is a problem since most games have little to no color adjustment.

For instance Fallout 3 is WAY too dark, and I need a way to adjust the brightness. I've also got a Trinitron P1230 (Dell) it's probably the best CRT that you can find for gaming (just can't handle LCD ghosting), and there's no hardware way of adjusting past a certain point, it's just too dark.

Anyways, short of going out and buying a new monitor (ugh I hate LCD's), is there any way to force Win7 to carry the desktop gamma calibration into other programs?


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02 Nov 2009   #2
Goden

Windows 7
 
 

I'm sorry for the bump, but I have the same problem.

My custom settings for gamma in the Nvidia control panel suddenly default when I enter a game.
I don't know what else there is to say, I've tried pretty much everything I can think of.

Other information:
- I don't want to set the settings in each game, I just want to use the control panel
- Monitor has no gamma settings
- Windows 7 Gamma settings don't work in games either
- I have tried multiple driver versions
- Third Party color tools don't work

It just always resets itself while playing a game.


I have confirmed that my ATI card on a totally different computer has the some problems.


Please, help.
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02 Nov 2009   #3
cneuhauser

 
 
Send a service request to Nvidia!

I sent a service request to Nvidia and outlined the details of the problem. They even had me rolling back drivers etc. with driver sweeper etc. without luck. So I think it's finally hitting home that they have to do a "work-around" for windows 7 in order to made sure gamma corrections and adjustments are translated into programs from the desktop.

I've heard this issue has been around since the "Vista" days (2yrs) so it's about time a software engineer at either Microsoft or at Nvidia straightened this out. I have a feeling it's an easy fix in the code with Windows 7, and would probably only take a brief 10 minute conversation between the two entities (Nvidia & Microsoft) to get this issue resolved.

Unfortunately I went out and bought a Samsung LX2300 LED 23" so I could jack up the back lighting just to compensate. But I hate playing games on LCD's, the ghosting annoys me. And for those non believers who say there isn't ghosting, I can give you a link to a webpage that shows refresh rate and ghosting for all monitors as a buyers comparison. I love my P1230 Trinnitron, there's nothing like it...silky smooth, I won't go to an LCD until that find some way to make the ghosting go away and they have 85mhz - 100mhz refresh rates at high resolutions.

The LCD went back to the store the next day and I bought a PS3 instead...
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02 Nov 2009   #4
Goden

Windows 7
 
 

If Microsoft does not want to fix it, there has got to be a work around.

I know you can bypass it by using windowed-mode, but it's just not the same.
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02 Nov 2009   #5
cneuhauser

 
 
Exactly

Exactly right, it's already in the code, they just need to modify it slightly. Fortunately Bioshock (playing for a 2nd time) has a brightness level that I've boosted all the way up and it doesn't effect gamma correction. However, I'm worried about all of my other games. Fallout 3 is still too dark etc.

So if you get a chance, I'd ask that you please file a complaint with Nvidia so they know some people are making noise. Hopefully our letters will be enough to get someone to do something about it.
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02 Nov 2009   #6
Goden

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cneuhauser View Post
Exactly right, it's already in the code, they just need to modify it slightly. Fortunately Bioshock (playing for a 2nd time) has a brightness level that I've boosted all the way up and it doesn't effect gamma correction. However, I'm worried about all of my other games. Fallout 3 is still too dark etc.

So if you get a chance, I'd ask that you please file a complaint with Nvidia so they know some people are making noise. Hopefully our letters will be enough to get someone to do something about it.
Unfortunately, this is not a problem with Nvidia.
I have had the same problems with the stock Windows-7 Gamma controls, and with ATI cards, and with third-party color tools.
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05 Feb 2010   #7
reasoner

Win7 64
 
 

Quote:
So I think it's finally hitting home that they have to do a "work-around" for windows 7 in order to made sure gamma corrections and adjustments are translated into programs from the desktop.
agreed - but his is 2010 and it stil happens - I have an nvidia GTX 260 - I set it for both monitors - the settings last for about a week, then one or both monitors suddenly gets a lot brighter upon boot up - means I have to constantly readjust the brightness

bitraker
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27 Dec 2010   #8
GovernorDerek

Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit
 
 
Ive been having similar problems as well

I just got a new computer for Chirstmas, and ive been having problems with many games.

Games like warcraft 3, The elder scrolls 4 Oblivion, the Sims 3, all of those games have been having really bad gamma problems, see when I play those games, the game brightness goes up, and even when I turn down the gamma in the game down it doesn't make it go down far enough to get rid of the brightness or the hazyness.


With warcraft 3 everything is a bit too bright, and the coloration is not right because of that and even when I used the gamma slider within the game and turned it all the way down, the game still has a bright haze, also when the game start up menu comes up after you put in the disk, it says that Windoes NT is NOT supported for Warcraft 3. I have no idea what that means, and the option to view any previews is reddend out and is non-clickable.


The problem with the Elder scrolls 4 Oblivion game, is that ANY TIME you even touch the gamma bar within the game itself, then the WHOLE game world no matter where becomes considerably brighter, not even putting the gamma all the way down gets rid of the bright haze, it lessons it but its still there.


With the sims 3, well that game seems to have a bright haze like gamma issue to it, same with all the others, but unlike the other games, this game has no gamma slider at all. so I can't do anything with it.

I have no idea whats going on, because this did the same EXACT thing on vista too on my older computer.


I use an ATI Radeon HD 5770 graphics card by the way.


PLEASE HELP!! or at least re-direct me to someone who can!
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27 Dec 2010   #9
Anthony

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
 
 

Sounds like some of you guys need to calibrate your monitors first.

Open this image with windows Photo Viewer to calibrate your monitors brightness / contrast, and yes you should be able to see the numbers 1 to 10.

Hope this helps!


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28 Dec 2010   #10
GovernorDerek

Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit
 
 
Not working

I only see 1 to 5. and when I try to adjust my moniter brightness/contrast, well it makes it WORSE!!

Also what does my moniter have anything to do with the problem ive been having inside my games?

The moniter is fine, but something is wrong with these games, and the thing is that these issues ONLY show up on Vista and 7 not XP. however when I put the games into XP mode, it doesn't do squat.

I don't know if its the operation system or the video card or what. but something is wrong here.

because ive never had these problems on my older computer

ever since I upgraded to my newer PC just so I can play my video games at full graphic power without any lag or choppyness, ive been having these damn in-game gamma/contrast issues.

Do I call the game makers, about the games? or should I call microsoft and ask them about this issue, or should I call my computer manufacturerer. the last one is a real doozy, because on my last pc that one that had vista, yeah it had the EXACT SAME ISSUES! and I called the manufacturer and it took litterally all day, but nothing good was being done, just the same old crap over and over. then they say that they know whats wrong and charge me for it. and then the higher up guy tells me that its a compadibility issue,

and that there is a page on microsoft that can show which games are compadible with windows vista or windows 7. and they charged me 40 bucks that in the end didn't help jack. you guys can well imagine my anger at the time.

And now a year later, and with a brand spanking new top of the line computer the same problems are still showing up, is it going to take a bloody video recording of these issues to get people to see what I am seeing??

because obvously just talking about it is not helping at all.
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