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You don't have enough RAM.

A graphics card is an MMIO device... as such, it takes for itself a portion of system RAM, dependent on the card. In your case, it's taking half of what you've got. You have other MMIO devies that are also taking RAM...

So, in a nutshell, you have less than 1GB of RAM to run the OS and your apps.

shady313 said:

Seems like i have the latest direct X version.

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If you didn't run this,

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3

after installing 7, or the game didn't ask/offer to install DirectX at the time of install, you are missing the necessary DirectX 9 files.

Fumz said:

A graphics card is an MMIO device... as such, it takes for itself a portion of system RAM, dependent on the card. In your case, it's taking half of what you've got. You have other MMIO devies that are also taking RAM...

So, in a nutshell, you have less than 1GB of RAM to run the OS and your apps.

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No it doesn't, that only applies to onboard video that shares system ram or TurboCache cards (usually very low end ones, and not many) that use system ram in addition to whatever is on the card.

Just because you have DX11 it does not mean you have previous versions, each version is essentially a seperate program. Make sure you have older versions as well.
Many dedicated cards will utilise system RAM if they can, my 1GB 5770 has up to 1.7GB shared memory.

Tommyd said:

Many dedicated cards will utilise system RAM if they can, my 1GB 5770 has up to 1.7GB shared memory.

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And again no it doesn't. That is virtualized video memory, sort like a pagefile for graphics, and like a pagefile is only used if needed (the ram isn't actually used unless needed),

With the introduction of DirectX 10 and Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) in Windows Vista, it is no longer necessary for an application to maintain a copy of its resources in system memory. Instead, the video memory manager makes sure that the content of every video memory allocation is maintained across display transitions. For compatibility reasons, Windows Vista emulates "device lost" for DirectX versions that are earlier than DirectX 10 to make sure that no application-visible API behavior changes.

To virtualize video memory, the video memory manager in Windows Vista assigns a virtual address range to every video memory resource. This range is conceptually similar to the copy that an application might create. However, the video memory manager manages the process more efficiently than the application might. The video memory manager uses the virtual address range to handle transitions or over-commitment of video memory. However, the virtual address range is typically unused on a system that has lots of video memory. As long as this virtual address range remains unused, no physical memory is allocated for it. In contrast, the system memory copy that is maintained in the older driver model is guaranteed to be fully populated with physical memory.

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Virtual address space usage in Windows Vista game development

Shady313,

The 4670 is a good card in its own right, dont get me wrong here.

But they aren't exactly designed for gaming at 1080P.

These cards will do well for most games at a res of 1440x900 or lower at med-higher settings. And can do fairly well at 1680x1050.

For 1080P gaming, you'll likely need a powered card, not really something that draws its power from the PCI-X slot.

I would adjust graphics down and see if you can smooth things out.

it is capable of much higher resolutions, True, but rendering a 3D game at those resolutions is a whole different ball game.
For everything else, even HD/Bluray playback they do excellent. Only hi-res gaming will they struggle.

Hope this helps.

Beyond that, if your running 7 x64, 4GB RAM would be the ideal amout of memory for gaming. 2GB is cutting it short, even though you have 1GB GPU RAM.

I would suggest:
Update Chipset Drivers, GPU Drivers, and Direct X .. make sure all up to date

Set graphics at a med. settings ... ((NO AA and NO AF))
Try 1280x720 (its a 16x9 res) and see if things smooth out.
if so its just a matter of making adjustments at a higher res to balance things out and find the "sweet' spot for that card & resolution

Another thing worth pointing out: Any game that is online is a bad judge for how the card performs. As you have now put many other factors into the equation such as internet connection, which can cause lag etc, that may not be any fault of your set up at all

not to but in but everytime someone says to install the dx9 pieces i try thier link and run it and it says that i have a newer version alreaddy installed,

and on the OP
i had similar problems with steam games as well but im on nvidia
so i ended up downgrading the drivers and it has worked since

stormy13 said:

Tommyd said:

Many dedicated cards will utilise system RAM if they can, my 1GB 5770 has up to 1.7GB shared memory.

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And again no it doesn't. That is virtualized video memory, sort like a pagefile for graphics, and like a pagefile is only used if needed (the ram isn't actually used unless needed),

With the introduction of DirectX 10 and Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) in Windows Vista, it is no longer necessary for an application to maintain a copy of its resources in system memory. Instead, the video memory manager makes sure that the content of every video memory allocation is maintained across display transitions. For compatibility reasons, Windows Vista emulates "device lost" for DirectX versions that are earlier than DirectX 10 to make sure that no application-visible API behavior changes.

To virtualize video memory, the video memory manager in Windows Vista assigns a virtual address range to every video memory resource. This range is conceptually similar to the copy that an application might create. However, the video memory manager manages the process more efficiently than the application might. The video memory manager uses the virtual address range to handle transitions or over-commitment of video memory. However, the virtual address range is typically unused on a system that has lots of video memory. As long as this virtual address range remains unused, no physical memory is allocated for it. In contrast, the system memory copy that is maintained in the older driver model is guaranteed to be fully populated with physical memory.

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Virtual address space usage in Windows Vista game development

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It would seem that I was mistaken, thank you for correcting that mis-understanding.

Hi stormy13,

My grey matter doesn't wake up until my second or third cup, so help me out. From the same article you linked, it says:

If an application creates its own in-memory copy of its video resources, or the application uses DirectX 9 or an earlier version, the virtual address space contains the WDDM video memory manager's virtualized range and the application's copy. Applications that use graphics APIs that are earlier than DirectX 10 and that target GPUs that have large amounts of video memory can easily exhaust their virtual address space.

To address this problem, Microsoft is changing the way that the video memory manager maintains the content of video memory resources. This change is being made so that a permanent virtual address range does not have to be used for each virtualized allocation. With the new approach, only allocations that are created as "lockable" consume space in the virtual address space of the application. Allocations that are not created as "lockable" do not consume space. This approach significantly reduces the virtual address space that is used. Therefore, the application can run on large video memory configurations without reaching the limits.

Although this approach reduces virtual address consumption, it does not eliminate the 2 GB virtual address space limit that many applications are quickly approaching on their own. Eventually, applications will reach the limit for other reasons.

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As this relates to the OP, isn't the end result insufficient physical RAM? btw, did not know they changed mmio mapping... thanks.

Wow thanks alot guys, this is probably by far the most helpful forum ive ever been to. So i tried downloading about 10 different versions of direct x, including the one that was link but i kept getting this window:



So it seems direct x isnt an issue. So i changed the settings on tf2 to 16:9 1920x1080 which is what my moniter is set to. I got a really big difference. It looks pretty good and not as much jaggies actually lol.

But my one concern ive noticed is that some of the icons in tf2 come up compressed or only showing like half of them. Im not too sure what to think on that one as ive set everything accordingly to my moniter. Heres a pic:



Also, before getting all this, i was using a 7900gs with an old desktop. You guys have been more the helpful, ill probably get a gig or 2 of ram next week then. Thanks alot!

This may help... maybe not... but have you tried also setting HL to the correct (same) resolution?

Heres the exact setting i have for tf2:



and for more detail:



Notice in the bottom how it sais direct X 9. I'm a little confused about that lol.

Also, not too sure if anyone knows, but is there a framerate or fps test that can be done on tf2 or other source games? I remember a while back id hit a setting and it would go through this video and then it would say what its running at but that was a while ago, not too sure if anyone knows what im talking about lol.

Run the game in Full screen.

^^^was running it at fullscreen, but i could only take screens when it was a window. I just wanna know why those icons are deformed...

Are you sure that the resolution that your are trying to play it on is supported by your monitor?

^^^^thats what it sais under recommended settings:

Someone told me alot of source games werent windows 7 compatible, maybe thats the issue?

Yes and no the Windows Compatibility Center is saying that the status is unknown and info is coming soon but I have no problem running Steam and source games.