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Windows 7: So what is this comp's bottleneck?!?!?!?!?!

02 Feb 2010   #31

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Why would you even want to run at 100fps or more?
You don't, but if it can run at 100+fps then with vsync enabled you will have a solid 60FPS.

As for the eye not being able to notice more than than 24fps, technically that may be true - but when it comes to games 24FPS vs 60+FPS is VERY noticeable.

For the OP, as others have mentioned, it's your CPU that is the bottleneck.

At a res of 1680x1050, a Video card is only just starting to take the majority of the workload off the CPU.

Resolutions below 1680x1050, it is the CPU that is still doing most of the work.

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02 Feb 2010   #32

Windows 7 Ultimate [64bit]
 
 

You really need to over clock the AMD CPU to around 2.4Ghz +. or think about upgrading to the AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 3.10GHz Black Edition only 72.00 of so.

Slightly increase the core clock, shader clock + memory clock on GPU by around 100Mhz. or get a Nvidia one, 8800 GTX would be great choice if you can find one as they are the all time greats cards in the world. but any 260 - 295 series one would be fine.

Your ram will have increased when clocking the CPU so thats all good (try keeping a to a standard multiplier)

Jobs a good'en
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02 Feb 2010   #33

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anyways, ive ordered a "more than decent" cooler and some paste from ebay to get ready for keep the cpu temps down whilst i overclock (probably overkill for a first time tbh but better safe than sorry). Ill get overclocking and ill update u guys with the results
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02 Feb 2010   #34

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SLIICE View Post
You really need to over clock the AMD CPU to around 2.4Ghz +. or think about upgrading to the AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 3.10GHz Black Edition only 72.00 of so.

Slightly increase the core clock, shader clock + memory clock on GPU by around 100Mhz. or get a Nvidia one, 8800 GTX would be great choice if you can find one as they are the all time greats cards in the world. but any 260 - 295 series one would be fine.

Your ram will have increased when clocking the CPU so thats all good (try keeping a to a standard multiplier)

Jobs a good'en
ty for the advice.
ill keep it one step at a time for now :P.

1) oc cpu
2) oc gpu

p.s. i thought 4870>8800gtx?
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03 Feb 2010   #35

Windows 7 Ultimate [64bit]
 
 

I get 7.7 Graphics + 7.7 Gaming scores in windows 7 and that really ant pushing the cards to hard, i get around 35 fps (average) in the crysis bench mark program running at ultra high settings, 1920x1200 4xAA DX10.

Now consider that a 340.00 GeForce GTX 285 2048MB, less than few months old only gets a score of 7.3 Graphics + 7.3 Gaming in windows 7 + ATI Radeon 4870 scores a 7.6 Graphics + 7.6 Gaming , the 3 year old, yes 3 year old 8800 GTX + ULTRA GPU's are still beating the best. furthermore in the last months "custom pc" mag the 8800 GTX were added to the "hardware hall of fame" and in this month "custom pc" theres a huge artical about the impressive life span, and the non-need to upgrade from the 8800 GTX + ULTRA.

Anyway good luck with the over-clocking.
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03 Feb 2010   #36

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SLIICE View Post
I get 7.7 Graphics + 7.7 Gaming scores in windows 7 and that really ant pushing the cards to hard, i get around 35 fps (average) in the crysis bench mark program running at ultra high settings, 1920x1200 4xAA DX10.

Now consider that a 340.00 GeForce GTX 285 2048MB, less than few months old only gets a score of 7.3 Graphics + 7.3 Gaming in windows 7 + ATI Radeon 4870 scores a 7.6 Graphics + 7.6 Gaming , the 3 year old, yes 3 year old 8800 GTX + ULTRA GPU's are still beating the best. furthermore in the last months "custom pc" mag the 8800 GTX were added to the "hardware hall of fame" and in this month "custom pc" theres a huge artical about the impressive life span, and the non-need to upgrade from the 8800 GTX + ULTRA.

Anyway good luck with the over-clocking.
A single 4890 is more stable than 3 of those and received a 7.6, as for Crysis all settings set to High @ 1920x1080 and AA off gives 41FPS. They don't support DirectX 10.1 either.
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04 Feb 2010   #37

Windows 7 Ultimate [64bit]
 
 

Your points are valid my friend.

But....

I've never had any reiablity problems with nvidia tri sli technolgy.

As for the Crysis bench mark, i have no witty comment 41fps is better than 35fps.

And yes true they dont support DX10.1 but i can live with that. Really carnt see the point in upgrading to DX10.1 at the moment from DX10. I'll wait for the next DX leap or possibly the one after that.

....Long live the old tech....
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04 Feb 2010   #38

 
 

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I'll wait for the next DX leap or possibly the one after that.

....Long live the old tech....
Which would be the current DX11...

10.1 is no big deal as rarely any titles actually use the added benefits of 10.1 anyway.
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04 Feb 2010   #39

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

3 cards may do do slightly better than the 1 single card but ...they aren't doing better by very much. .1 on the WEI.

By the time you add power consumption/total heat output ...
they would be FAR behind IMO in grand scheme of things.
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04 Feb 2010   #40

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

100 fps is noticeable in CSS. That rig should be getting 100fps however i would say its the cpu bottlenecking. I'm not sure why considering how old CSS is, however, its most likely true. I went from a E6600 to an E8400 and that meant the difference of 300 fps in the Video Stress Test.

just my 2 cents
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