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Windows 7: So what is this comp's bottleneck?!?!?!?!?!
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31 Jan 2010
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#11 | |
Home Premium x64 Sacramento, California, USA |
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1  I don't profess to be a fountain of knowledge when it comes to video cards, but is there really a massive difference between an Nvidia 8800GT and an ATI 4870? The CPU is certainly going to have an impact. And your hard drive would primary cause slower loading times...but I don't think would have a big impact on FPS? Here is an article on graphics cards, there should be a noticable difference, especially in higher resolutions, between the Nvidia 8800GT and the ATI 4870. Far Cry 2 PC VGA Graphics performance review | My System Specs |
| OS Home Premium x64
CPU Intel e7400 2.8GHz Dual Core, OC @ 3.36GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L/S3L
Memory 4GB DDR2 1066
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT
Sound Card Realtek Surround Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VW224, 22 Inch and Samsung SyncMaster 713v
Screen Resolution Main Screen @1680x1050, Secondary @ 1280x1024
Keyboard Old Dell Keyboard my neighbor gave me.
Mouse Logitech MX518
PSU Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W
Case Rosewill R5601-BK Screw-less
Cooling Two 120mm fans and Stock CPU fans
Hard Drives Western Digital WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Internet Speed 6Kbps
Other Info Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers
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31 Jan 2010
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#12 | |
Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |
Your CPU is useless. 2.2GHz of slow quad cores is not conducive to gaming. It will not push the GPU which is not being utilized properly. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB
Motherboard Sony branded
Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz
Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina)
Sound Card Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA
Screen Resolution 1600x900
Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache
Internet Speed 1MB/s
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31 Jan 2010
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#13 | |
windows 7 RTM x64 michigan (metro detroit area) |
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne Your CPU is useless. 2.2GHz of slow quad cores is not conducive to gaming. It will not push the GPU which is not being utilized properly. This coming from a guy with a phenom logo as his avitar. I wonder if your computer support faster ram? You are running ddr-800, if the board supports ddr-1066 you would have a large increase in transfer speed of in-ram data to the video card.
Read the following thread: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s....php?p=5549636 | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Black_Box (homebuilt)
OS windows 7 RTM x64
CPU Phenom II 965 Quad Core 3.4Ghz
Motherboard Asus M4A79T Deluxe
Memory Mushkin Blackline 8GB (4x2gb)
Graphics Card XFX Radeon 5970 Black Edition
Sound Card onboard
Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WPF-main Dell E248WFP-secondary
Screen Resolution 1920x1200-main 1920x1200-secondary
Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 wireless keyboard
Mouse Razor Copperhead
PSU XFX 850w Black Edition (Modular)
Case Mountian Mods H2go
Cooling CoolITSystems ECO A.L.C.
Hard Drives OCZ Vertex Limited Edition 100GB (OS)
x1 WD Black Edition 500GB drive (Storage)
Internet Speed 16Mb down/2Mb up Wowway Cable Internet
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31 Jan 2010
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#14 | |
Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |
Quote: Originally Posted by ccatlett1984
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne Your CPU is useless. 2.2GHz of slow quad cores is not conducive to gaming. It will not push the GPU which is not being utilized properly. This coming from a guy with a phenom logo as his avitar. I wonder if your computer support faster ram? You are running ddr-800, if the board supports ddr-1066 you would have a large increase in transfer speed of in-ram data to the video card.
Read the following thread: Bottleknecks Help On Understanding Them - Overclockers Forums The laptop processor in my system specs is better than this slow quad-core - games need high clock speed combined with cache and architecture - and 2.2GHz will choke any modern game. As for transfer speed, that will be negligible, quantity counts for RAM, not speed (as much). | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB
Motherboard Sony branded
Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz
Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina)
Sound Card Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA
Screen Resolution 1600x900
Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache
Internet Speed 1MB/s
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31 Jan 2010
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#15 | |
windows 7 RTM x64 michigan (metro detroit area) |
I beg to differ on pure hertz being the defining spec. I happen to run close to that setup, and have no lag issues at all. I only play on lan servers, but my fps never drops below 60. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Black_Box (homebuilt)
OS windows 7 RTM x64
CPU Phenom II 965 Quad Core 3.4Ghz
Motherboard Asus M4A79T Deluxe
Memory Mushkin Blackline 8GB (4x2gb)
Graphics Card XFX Radeon 5970 Black Edition
Sound Card onboard
Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WPF-main Dell E248WFP-secondary
Screen Resolution 1920x1200-main 1920x1200-secondary
Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 wireless keyboard
Mouse Razor Copperhead
PSU XFX 850w Black Edition (Modular)
Case Mountian Mods H2go
Cooling CoolITSystems ECO A.L.C.
Hard Drives OCZ Vertex Limited Edition 100GB (OS)
x1 WD Black Edition 500GB drive (Storage)
Internet Speed 16Mb down/2Mb up Wowway Cable Internet
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31 Jan 2010
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#16 | |
Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |
Quote: Originally Posted by ccatlett1984 I beg to differ on pure hertz being the defining spec. I happen to run close to that setup, and have no lag issues at all. I only play on lan servers, but my fps never drops below 60. Lan is different to Crysis - and I did mention cache+architecture. Clock speed is important along with these two for games. Have you tried Crysis on high at 1920x1080? | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB
Motherboard Sony branded
Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz
Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina)
Sound Card Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA
Screen Resolution 1600x900
Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache
Internet Speed 1MB/s
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31 Jan 2010
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#17 | |
windows 7 RTM x64 michigan (metro detroit area) |
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne
Quote: Originally Posted by ccatlett1984 I beg to differ on pure hertz being the defining spec. I happen to run close to that setup, and have no lag issues at all. I only play on lan servers, but my fps never drops below 60. Lan is different to Crysis - and I did mention cache+architecture. Clock speed is important along with these two for games. Have you tried Crysis on high at 1920x1080? The OP is playing CSS, did you pull Crysis out of a hat? CSS is not a comp killer like crysis. And yes i have tried crysis on high, with my two cards in crossfire i was able to keep ~18fps min, but I know that my hardware isnt up to playing it maxed. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Black_Box (homebuilt)
OS windows 7 RTM x64
CPU Phenom II 965 Quad Core 3.4Ghz
Motherboard Asus M4A79T Deluxe
Memory Mushkin Blackline 8GB (4x2gb)
Graphics Card XFX Radeon 5970 Black Edition
Sound Card onboard
Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WPF-main Dell E248WFP-secondary
Screen Resolution 1920x1200-main 1920x1200-secondary
Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 wireless keyboard
Mouse Razor Copperhead
PSU XFX 850w Black Edition (Modular)
Case Mountian Mods H2go
Cooling CoolITSystems ECO A.L.C.
Hard Drives OCZ Vertex Limited Edition 100GB (OS)
x1 WD Black Edition 500GB drive (Storage)
Internet Speed 16Mb down/2Mb up Wowway Cable Internet
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31 Jan 2010
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#18 | |
Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |
Quote: Originally Posted by ccatlett1984
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne
Quote: Originally Posted by ccatlett1984 I beg to differ on pure hertz being the defining spec. I happen to run close to that setup, and have no lag issues at all. I only play on lan servers, but my fps never drops below 60. Lan is different to Crysis - and I did mention cache+architecture. Clock speed is important along with these two for games. Have you tried Crysis on high at 1920x1080? The OP is playing CSS, did you pull Crysis out of a hat? CSS is not a comp killer like crysis. And yes i have tried crysis on high, with my two cards in crossfire i was able to keep ~18fps min, but I know that my hardware isnt up to playing it maxed. End this - not much can play Crysis maxed - and high is the second highest option. I hold that a low clock speed is a bottleneck even on old games like CSS. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB
Motherboard Sony branded
Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz
Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina)
Sound Card Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA
Screen Resolution 1600x900
Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache
Internet Speed 1MB/s
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31 Jan 2010
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#19 | |
windows 7 RTM x64 michigan (metro detroit area) |
| | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Black_Box (homebuilt)
OS windows 7 RTM x64
CPU Phenom II 965 Quad Core 3.4Ghz
Motherboard Asus M4A79T Deluxe
Memory Mushkin Blackline 8GB (4x2gb)
Graphics Card XFX Radeon 5970 Black Edition
Sound Card onboard
Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WPF-main Dell E248WFP-secondary
Screen Resolution 1920x1200-main 1920x1200-secondary
Keyboard Logitech MX 5500 wireless keyboard
Mouse Razor Copperhead
PSU XFX 850w Black Edition (Modular)
Case Mountian Mods H2go
Cooling CoolITSystems ECO A.L.C.
Hard Drives OCZ Vertex Limited Edition 100GB (OS)
x1 WD Black Edition 500GB drive (Storage)
Internet Speed 16Mb down/2Mb up Wowway Cable Internet
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31 Jan 2010
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#20 | |
Home Premium x64 Sacramento, California, USA |
I'm going to agree that it's the CPU that is the bottleneck. What is your Front Side Bus set to?
We have very comparable computers. Here is a picture of my CS:S all settings maxed at 1680x1050 resolution
 | | My System Specs | | OS Home Premium x64
CPU Intel e7400 2.8GHz Dual Core, OC @ 3.36GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L/S3L
Memory 4GB DDR2 1066
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT
Sound Card Realtek Surround Onboard.
Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VW224, 22 Inch and Samsung SyncMaster 713v
Screen Resolution Main Screen @1680x1050, Secondary @ 1280x1024
Keyboard Old Dell Keyboard my neighbor gave me.
Mouse Logitech MX518
PSU Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W
Case Rosewill R5601-BK Screw-less
Cooling Two 120mm fans and Stock CPU fans
Hard Drives Western Digital WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Internet Speed 6Kbps
Other Info Logitech X-540 70 watts 5.1 Speakers
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