| Windows 7: Weird lag in seemingly ALL applications. |
24 May 2010
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#11 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
bear in mind, you may need to enable advanced mode to see it as well.
My board requires pressing F9 at the start and choosing Normal or Advanced.
Other boards the option to enable advanced mode is hidden with Shift+F1 or something similar.
Others require no action at all. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866 Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SC Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T SE White Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB Antivirus Kaspersky Browser IE Other Info LG BD/DVD |
24 May 2010
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#12 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Derbyshire, England |
Ah thanks again guys, and thanks a LOT for the guide, really helpful. I'll go apply the settings and report back. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad CPU @2.40 GHZ G0 Stepping Motherboard ASUS P5B Memory Corsair DDR2 800mhz 3GB Graphics Card GeForce GTX275 896MB Sound Card Integrated Sound Screen Resolution 1440X900 Mouse Razer Deathadder PSU Corsair VX450w Case Akasa Cooling Scythe "MUGEN" 5Heat Pipes CPU Cooler Hard Drives 3x Maxtor 200GB (2x 6V200M0, 1x 6V200M0) Internet Speed 10MB |
24 May 2010
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#13 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Derbyshire, England |
Ok, I made the changes, set the DRAM Freq to 800mhz, Memory Voltage to 2v, timings to 5-5-5-18. System seems to boot up fine, however I got a long beep with 3 small beeps and nothing, then one more beep and the post screen appeared. After that it started as normal.
It doesn't seem to have made any difference :< I still get the weird lag in my music when browsing and I still get the slowdown in WoW.
Last edited by Fletchrr; 24 May 2010 at 07:01 PM..
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad CPU @2.40 GHZ G0 Stepping Motherboard ASUS P5B Memory Corsair DDR2 800mhz 3GB Graphics Card GeForce GTX275 896MB Sound Card Integrated Sound Screen Resolution 1440X900 Mouse Razer Deathadder PSU Corsair VX450w Case Akasa Cooling Scythe "MUGEN" 5Heat Pipes CPU Cooler Hard Drives 3x Maxtor 200GB (2x 6V200M0, 1x 6V200M0) Internet Speed 10MB |
25 May 2010
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#14 | | |
hi fletch
1 long beep followed by 3 short beeps is normally a graphics card problem whereas 1 short beep followed by 3 long beeps is normally a memory problem. Listen carefully and make sure you know which 1 it is.
If its the memory then you can just lower speed back to 666mhz and keep the voltages and timings as they are and see if that helps. When working in the bios there is a lot of trial and error until you find the sweet spot for your system.
If its the graphics card then as its nvidia someone else will need to help you as i always use ATI, so im unsure of what to do on nvidia but basically you want to lower your graphics card speed and see if that helps.
Also make sure you are using the most recent drivers for your graphics card - http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-uk | My System Specs | | |
25 May 2010
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Derbyshire, England |
Hey again,
I was under the impression that 1 long and 3 short indicated a memory problem? I'm not sure what BIOS I have (I think its AMI BIOS, ill check soonish) but according to this page; Computer Post / Beep codes - it says '1 long, 3 short - Conventional/Extended memory failure'.
But yea, its definately 1 long, 3 short.
I'm not sure which is correct, I just really hope it isnt my graphics card. As I cant really afford to replace it. I'm currently using the most up to date drivers available.
Thanks for your continued help btw. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad CPU @2.40 GHZ G0 Stepping Motherboard ASUS P5B Memory Corsair DDR2 800mhz 3GB Graphics Card GeForce GTX275 896MB Sound Card Integrated Sound Screen Resolution 1440X900 Mouse Razer Deathadder PSU Corsair VX450w Case Akasa Cooling Scythe "MUGEN" 5Heat Pipes CPU Cooler Hard Drives 3x Maxtor 200GB (2x 6V200M0, 1x 6V200M0) Internet Speed 10MB |
25 May 2010
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Derbyshire, England |
Checked my bios and it is indeed AMIBIOS.
Ok, so I changed the settings on the RAM to 667mhz with the same timings and voltage as before, got the beeps again but this time, when windows began to boot, the PC restarted itself, so I tried again. This time I got a BSOD and the PC would just beep, with no return to the POST screen.
After trying a few times to get it to boot I reset the cmos and tried again, still no luck. So I took out 2 of the RAM modules (just leaving the 4-4-4-12) and it booted up fine, Windows started as normal.
Just out of curiosity I checked to see if I still got the lag in my music while browsing. The scrolling was a little laggy but my music was playing fine, no weird slowdown. So I tried WoW aswell, and while it was still lagging (which to be honest, I can forgive due to Task Manager reporting I'm using 95% of available memory while playing it) my music wasn't lagging at all, and the 'lag' appeared to be 'normal' fps loss, not the weird slowdown issue I was experiencing before.
I think it's safe to say the RAM is the problem, unless you guys think it could be something else? I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure I'll be purchasing one of the kits I pasted earlier.
Thanks again for your help. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad CPU @2.40 GHZ G0 Stepping Motherboard ASUS P5B Memory Corsair DDR2 800mhz 3GB Graphics Card GeForce GTX275 896MB Sound Card Integrated Sound Screen Resolution 1440X900 Mouse Razer Deathadder PSU Corsair VX450w Case Akasa Cooling Scythe "MUGEN" 5Heat Pipes CPU Cooler Hard Drives 3x Maxtor 200GB (2x 6V200M0, 1x 6V200M0) Internet Speed 10MB |
25 May 2010
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#17 | | |
Yeah sorry i typed that the wrong way round. Hope i didn't send you into a panic about your graphics card lol.
Try taking out the cl4 stick and put in the cl5 sticks. This would at least give you 2gb and see if that works well.
You could sell the cl4 stick on ebay and buy another single cl5 stick to match what you have already got if you really need 3gb or more.
Id advise against buying new ram as it would be a waste of money. Those sticks you have linked to are 1066mhz ram and the 5pb motherboard can only go up to 800mhz, so for over £100 you will gain nothing in performance. If there is nothing wrong with the ram you have got then spend that money instead on a better cooling solution for your pc.
You said earlier that your cpu runs hot, use the money for better fans, dust filters etc etc. You could also try raising the fsb to 350 and give it a x7 multiplier which will give you about the same clock speed but with a lower multiplier it should require less voltage to run therefore reducing heat. It would also mean you could run your ram to cpu in a 1:1 ratio giving your ram a speed of 700 mhz which means you could reduce the voltage and the timings there as well so it gives out less heat. But its all trial error and expect a lot of reboots in trying to find whats best for your pc. | My System Specs | | |
25 May 2010
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#18 | | W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32 NYC |
Windows 7 wants more ram to itself than XP. approx 1GB
Windows 7 has a lot of services that could be disabled, depending upon your pc needs. Services take ram and cpu cycles, reduce them.
Get new ram, all same specs, same timings, minimum 4GB. Prefered 6GB or more.
Get a bigger PSU, your vid card is volt hungary.
Consider a modest OC of cpu.???????
Windows 7, state of the art operating system. Your system hardware, viable, but 4 years out of date.
You could have a heat issue. You could be maxing out your hardware because of windows 7 higher demands.??? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY #3, #2 OS W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32 CPU INTEL i7 920 DO, Core2 Duo 6400 Motherboard GIGABYTE EX58 UD3R-SLI, EP45-UD3R Memory KINGSTON DDR3 1333MHz, CORSAIR DDR2 800MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTX 260 x2, 8800 GTX Sound Card REALTEK HD onboard, ditto Monitor(s) Displays SONY 40" BRAVIA LCD Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard MS Mouse MS PSU COOLERMASTER 900W, ENERMAX 850W Case COOLERMASTER HAF 932 x2 Cooling stock Hard Drives OCZ VERTEX/RAID0 -3, Vertex 30GB Internet Speed ADSL 3MB/768KBs Other Info amateur enthusiast |
25 May 2010
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#19 | | Dual boot XP Pro SP3x86 and Win7 Pro x64 New Mexico |

Quote: Originally Posted by spyknee Windows 7 wants more ram to itself than XP. approx 1GB
Windows 7 has a lot of services that could be disabled, depending upon your pc needs. Services take ram and cpu cycles, reduce them.
Get new ram, all same specs, same timings, minimum 4GB. Prefered 6GB or more.
Get a bigger PSU, your vid card is volt hungary.
Consider a modest OC of cpu.???????
Windows 7, state of the art operating system. Your system hardware, viable, but 4 years out of date.
You could have a heat issue. You could be maxing out your hardware because of windows 7 higher demands.??? Amen! I especially like the part about the matched RAM. Reiterating my earlier post, I would add that it makes no sense to me what so ever to expend resources tweaking voltages to arrive at a dubious end.
Monk | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Dual boot XP Pro SP3x86 and Win7 Pro x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x3 720 BE OCed to 3.3 GHz Motherboard Asus M3A79T Deluxe Memory 2x2GB OCZ OCZ2RPR10664GK PC2-8500 DDR2 Graphics Card Sapphire ATi Radeon 4830 HD x2 (XFire) Sound Card Integrated (SoundMax) Monitor(s) Displays Dual: LG L227WTG/LG M237WD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050; 1920 x1280 Keyboard Black with lots of keys Mouse Razer Lachesis, Logitech RumbePad2, Logitech Marble PSU Zalman 750HD Modular Case Antec 900 Cooling 4 120mm, 1 200mm fans Hard Drives 3 WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B0 Internet Speed Who counts Other Info 7:1 SS |
26 May 2010
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#20 | | |
If you have the time id spend it tweaking your system, as you'll end up paying somewhere around £150 on what is a ddr2 system. To me that sounds crazy.
I think you should spend that money on system cooling or keep it for when you upgrade to a ddr3 system.
Windows 7 is like a tweaked version of vista which is about 3.5 years old. So its not a demanding operating system for the specs you have. As you can see in my system specs im eeking out everything my core2duo's got lol. My windows 7 uses 800mb of ram at boot and iv never seen it go above 2 gig. Buying new ram will probably solve the lag issue so its a quick fix but if you have the time to tweak what you already have you will end up with a faster pc, which runs cooler and have spent no money. | My System Specs | | Weird lag in seemingly ALL applications. problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:45 AM. | |