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Windows 7 - Should I use the "run as admin" option when I install new software? |
08-09-2010
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#1 | | 7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1 |
Should I use the "run as admin" option when I install new software? As a general rule of thumb, is it best to install all new software using the "run as administrator" option? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sager NP2096 OS 7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P9500 @ 2.53GHz (lower wattage chip) Motherboard JHL 90 (U2E1) Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR 2 @ 398MHz (5-5-5-18) Graphics Card 512MB GeForce 9600M GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard generic Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling nature Hard Drives Hitachi 244GB @ 7200rpm (IDE) Internet Speed 30 megabits down, 5 megabits up Other Info 1.)Staples 4-Port USB 2.0 Mobile Hub
2.)WNDR3700 - NETGEAR RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Gigabit Router
3.)Logitech Webcam C250
4.)Logitech M570 |
08-09-2010
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#2 | | |
yes if you trust the program you are going to install... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number wipro OS windows 7 CPU wipro Motherboard intel Memory 8 gb Hard Drives 580 gb |
08-09-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |
Not necessarly. Yes you should only install if you trust the software/program but you only need to use 'run as administrator' if the program/software does'nt start straight away.
Lucky | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
08-09-2010
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#4 | | 7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar Not necessarly. Yes you should only install if you trust the software/program but you only need to use 'run as administrator' if the program/software does'nt start straight away.
Lucky What do you mean by that? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sager NP2096 OS 7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P9500 @ 2.53GHz (lower wattage chip) Motherboard JHL 90 (U2E1) Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR 2 @ 398MHz (5-5-5-18) Graphics Card 512MB GeForce 9600M GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard generic Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling nature Hard Drives Hitachi 244GB @ 7200rpm (IDE) Internet Speed 30 megabits down, 5 megabits up Other Info 1.)Staples 4-Port USB 2.0 Mobile Hub
2.)WNDR3700 - NETGEAR RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Gigabit Router
3.)Logitech Webcam C250
4.)Logitech M570 |
08-09-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |
I mean, if you can start the software install without 'run as administrator' then you don't need it.
I hav'nt really found much software that requires it, so i don't even know why it is there, unless someone else can jump in here and explain more.
I am just talking through experience.
I think i had one program that required it.
I take it you have UAC disabled?
Lucky | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
08-09-2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |
If you install as a normal user (non elevated) and everything works then this is a more secure way of installation, if the install will not take place in this mode then you should fully check the installer/ supplier and only then run as administrator.
You may even be prompted to re-install the software if windows deems that something is not quite right | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s)
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) |
08-09-2010
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#7 | | 7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1 |
thanks to everyone who participated in this very special thread | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sager NP2096 OS 7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P9500 @ 2.53GHz (lower wattage chip) Motherboard JHL 90 (U2E1) Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR 2 @ 398MHz (5-5-5-18) Graphics Card 512MB GeForce 9600M GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard generic Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 Cooling nature Hard Drives Hitachi 244GB @ 7200rpm (IDE) Internet Speed 30 megabits down, 5 megabits up Other Info 1.)Staples 4-Port USB 2.0 Mobile Hub
2.)WNDR3700 - NETGEAR RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Gigabit Router
3.)Logitech Webcam C250
4.)Logitech M570 |
08-09-2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 If you install as a normal user (non elevated) and everything works then this is a more secure way of installation, if the install will not take place in this mode then you should fully check the installer/ supplier and only then run as administrator.
You may even be prompted to re-install the software if windows deems that something is not quite right
Thanks barman, as i said, i was not sure what its for, guess because my account is Admin (Not the hidden admin account either).
Lucky | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The HAFmeister (Custom) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz) Motherboard Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0 Memory 6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26) Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570 Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular) Case CoolerMaster HAF-932 Cooling Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II Internet Speed 3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed) Other Info IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One. |
08-09-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar
Thanks barman, as i said, i was not sure what its for
We use it at work all the time. All of our end users are in the Users group, so the majority of them cannot install software. If they need a piece of software installed, we run as administrator (putting in our credentials) rather than logging them off and installing under our username.
Saves a bunch of time | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.90Ghz Motherboard Some Gigabyte one, dont remember model Memory 3.00 GB Graphics Card 8800GTS 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Monitor(s) Displays Dual 22" widescreen Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 2 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W Power Supply Case Thermalkake Tsunami Dream Cooling Thermaltake Golden Orb II Hard Drives 250GB internal, 500GB internal |
08-09-2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |
The main reasons for an application requiring elevation to install is the need to install drivers or services that need to be running before the user logs on, to do this you need to run as a system account.
The other major reason is bad programming practice, all user settings should be stored in the user folder tree - some programmers still insist in placing user files under the program files tree. It is a relatively new requirement as it only came in with NT3.5 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s)
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