Superbar... love or hate?

tw33k · 05 Jun 2009

Phate said:

Superbar is more efficient, and joints ugly quick launch with taskbar together and makes perfect synergies together. Love it, love it, love it.

one of the first things I did on a new XP install was to remove quick launch bar....hate it, hate it, hate it

maq · 05 Jun 2009

tw33k said:

don't get me wrong. i LOVE windows 7. I'm just pointing to one example of why I think a lot of people would be turned off. I agree that people should spend a little time learning it and they would appreciate the changes but most people don't want to do that. They like familiarity and change is hard.

edit: wooohooo! 200 posts

i know what you mean. how many "mums and dads" are going to fork out a few hundred bucks to switch to 7, however it's for new machines and particularly netbooks where I think they will cash in.

Mercurial · 05 Jun 2009

tw33k said:

no...it's m$ loss and that's my point

they have already loss a great amount due to pirates copies / cracks / serial keygens ect ect... ( hell windows 7 is already sold on some countries(asia) inside fake illegal boxes )

1-10 people that wont upgrade because they hate to adapt to changes? not a big loss for m$

Mercurial

tw33k · 05 Jun 2009

Mercurial said:

1-10 people that wont upgrade because they hate to adapt to changes? not a big loss for m$

Mercurial

it'll be more than that. i do pc upgrades and repairs and i can tell you a lot of people have no idea and will stick to xp as long as possible

DarkXeno · 05 Jun 2009

The new superbar is great for heavy app users. But Tw33k is right the average user is not going to like it or want to spend the time to learn it.
My wife hate my laptop now that I have Windows 7, if I knew this was how I was going to get my laptop back I would've loaded it a lot sooner.
Like Tw33k I do side repairs for people and I know that 90% of them will not like how it works and say I want my XP back not to mention the amount of time I would spend teaching them how to use it the first time. I just keep hoping that Microsoft does one hell of a marketing job to get people to see and try something new and different. If they don't then its people like us that will have to market the new toys Microsoft has given us.

Shockwave · 05 Jun 2009

personally i like it, but its not a big enough of a change for me. I was hoping vista was going to be something we had not had before(desktop looks and such)..when that did not happen i was sure windows 7 was going to be, and still nothing..

I want something completely different! Other than that even though i loved the speed of vista and never had problems with it, nor have i had any problems with ANY of the beta or RC releases of windows 7, they just all feel the same cause windows has looked the same for the last 15yrs!

Adamd · 05 Jun 2009

Shockwave said:

personally i like it, but its not a big enough of a change for me. I was hoping vista was going to be something we had not had before(desktop looks and such)..when that did not happen i was sure windows 7 was going to be, and still nothing..

I want something completely different! Other than that even though i loved the speed of vista and never had problems with it, nor have i had any problems with ANY of the beta or RC releases of windows 7, they just all feel the same cause windows has looked the same for the last 15yrs!

While I agree I do believe they want to keep it looking the same. People understand how to use windows and want to keep it that way.

If Microsoft changed up how windows worked it would get worse reviews than Vista lol. No one would want it...

Shockwave · 05 Jun 2009

Adamd said:

While I agree I do believe they want to keep it looking the same. People understand how to use windows and want to keep it that way.

If Microsoft changed up how windows worked it would get worse reviews than Vista lol. No one would want it...

they could ease it in though, as in have maybe two versions of windows, it can be done, they would just have to phase it in. Business versions would look the same as old version, for us regular folk they could do whatever they want and make a different look

einsmaste · 23 Oct 2009

i had to make an account to post this. hehe.
my family all hates the windows 7 new 'superbar'.
change is not something people usually want forced on them ive noticed. you would think they would have learned that by now.
as for me personally, i use my desktop for downloads and manipulation of files (just as a desk should be used hehe) and temporary places for edited materials. i dont ever use the 'download' folders and such.

being that this is the case, i too have to say i cannot stand and despise the new taskbar as well.

the reason for this for me, is since my desktop IS my desktop, i use the old quicklaunch bar for quickly loading apps.
the rest of the bar is where i can see every single window i have open. the new taskbar forces you to click then find-visually search then click again for a web page, instead of me just seeing it right *their* emediatly where i want it to get it like usual. same for chat or other things. the old bar i can just click their chatname and boom their it is. no searching. no hassle. instant. grouping of windows, hiding icons, and crap like that is always something i turn off on installing a m$ os. also dont care for the default big huge ass icons. yes changed that back to small. i also always put BACK the menu bars they seem to have taken out from everywhere... (msn, ie, explorer, player, etc)
anyways, this 'super' bar is a step back for me in productivity not forwards.

fortunately i can still force windows 7 to have this 'superbar' to be gone and bring back my old one thanks to some websites that explain how. they should have left it as a simple option to contiue to use instead.
ive had to do this for my family members as well. hehe

anyways.. yuck. no sir, i dont like it. if i wasnt able to get the old one back theirs several people over here that wouldnt have used windows 7 at all.

instead of removing options, they should keep the options available that people have been using for a long time; not hiding them. it should be the opposite. made something new? then make it as a new option to use, not the default. options are nice to have. 'depreciation'? yea ok...

had a friend that bought a new laptop then found out their were no xp drivers for it at all, and ended up installing linux/openoffice on it. this is how bad some folks have not taken kindly to vista and 7 so far. just a fact to keep in mind.

some people on here seem to think that if you force people to be around something enough they will get use to it and like it (employees?), instead of giving them alternatives or options.

stockholm syndrom isnt kosher to me. what ever happened to if its not broken dont fix it?

MrJukes · 23 Oct 2009

If you're developing a new feature that you don't feel should be on by default then that feature is probably not worth developing. You can't expect a user to go digging through settings to turn on something new. You can bet the people who absolutely can't stand the new feature will try to find ways to turn it off. The new taskbar has gotten overwhelmingly positive reviews but the vocal minority still have a way to get back to what they are used to.